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Mugen ECU vs. Spoon ECU ?

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Old 04-14-2003, 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by vapors2k


what kind of racing do you do where you are always at high rpms?
most of racing track, unless you don't down shift when you make turns....
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not to sound like a total ass, but what exactly is an ECU and what does it stand for?

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Hi Guys,

Does Mugen produce N1 Ecu only for JDM series S2000, or will they fit also Euro Spec S2000....
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It fits F20 engine..!! so, it doesn't matter if it is US/Japz/Euro spec.
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Mugen ECU is for racing use. Mugen ECU requires 70mm exhaust in a certain length to make the most power out from your engine (you can find the details which comes with the ECU). I have notice that the engine "PINGs" during load throttle at low rpm ranges so pump gas doesn't meet the requirements for Mugen MAP but you will have no problem with RACE gas ofcuz.

IMO, Mugen header and exhaust are aimed for low-mid range power.

Spoon's ECU lowered the VTEC point to have smoother VTEC transaction. You can 91-93 octance fuel with no "ping" problem because the map runs richer.
Old 08-22-2005, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by AJ PwR,Aug 20 2005, 07:10 PM
Mugen ECU is for racing use. Mugen ECU requires 70mm exhaust in a certain length to make the most power out from your engine (you can find the details which comes with the ECU). I have notice that the engine "PINGs" during load throttle at low rpm ranges so pump gas doesn't meet the requirements for Mugen MAP but you will have no problem with RACE gas ofcuz.

IMO, Mugen header and exhaust are aimed for low-mid range power.

Spoon's ECU lowered the VTEC point to have smoother VTEC transaction. You can 91-93 octance fuel with no "ping" problem because the map runs richer.

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My car is totally stock,

Im planning to instal a Mugen ECU, or a Spoon ECU.

My S2000 is a 2001 Model White JDM. I'm always adding Nos fuel additive to compensate for our fuel, which is 91ron.

From your point of view, I think its best to install a Spoon Ecu.
Which is not as aggrassive as the Mugen.

Regarding the thermostat, switch and Rad cap, do I also have to replace these, as they recommend to do when installing a Mugen N1 Ecu?

Thanks
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Hi Guys,

I'm also considering the Amuse Hi Tech Rom, any comments about this ECU, and do I need to change ther. switch, rad. cap,and thermostat with this unit.?

Amuse link:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...6lr%3D%26sa%3DG
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if you have mugen I/H/E then get the mugen ecu
if you have spoon I/H/E then get the mugen ecu
if you have j's racing I/H/E then get the j's racing ecu

if you have random I/H/E parts... then get AEM EMS
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Originally Posted by XXX240,Aug 22 2005, 09:53 AM
My car is totally stock,

Im planning to instal a Mugen ECU, or a Spoon ECU.

My S2000 is a 2001 Model White JDM. I'm always adding Nos fuel additive to compensate for our fuel, which is 91ron.

From your point of view, I think its best to install a Spoon Ecu.
Which is not as aggrassive as the Mugen.

Regarding the thermostat, switch and Rad cap, do I also have to replace these, as they recommend to do when installing a Mugen N1 Ecu?

Thanks [/QUOTE]
If your car is stock, I will suggest you do the basics like I/H/E first because by putting in the ECU alone, you will not get the best results.

Cooling mods ? I think it is better to have no matter what brand because it will make a difference anyways. Different brands will not affect the settings of the aftermarket ECU.

if you have mugen I/H/E then get the mugen ecu
if you have spoon I/H/E then get the mugen ecu
if you have j's racing I/H/E then get the j's racing ecu

if you have random I/H/E parts... then get AEM EMS
You got a good point but I am not 100% agreed with that. Mugen ECU is not made to work with their street tuned products so if you run the ECU alone with a 70mm exhaust, you will probably get better gains over Mugen header and exhaust.

I have done a comparision between Mugen ECU and J's ECU. Mugen ECU makes about 4whp over J's but J's adjusted the VTEC to kick in earlier and that part at the mid-range gained 14whp over Mugen.


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