Mobil 1 R (Racing) has been released
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Originally posted by Hickey322
anyone have any thoughts on this?
anyone have any thoughts on this?
The stuff is going for $10.95 a quart! I smell bling-bling ("I am using the same earl as dat dare Nascar feller, uh hunk uh hunka").
For 10.95, it should come with at least one of my fantasy girls!!!
http://store.yahoo.com/rodi/mo1raoil.html
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Here is the actual PDS from Mobil 1:
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS...acing_0W-30.asp
Here is a Virgin Oil Analysis (VOA) of Mobil 1R:
Aluminum 0
Chromium 0
Iron 1
Copper 0
Lead 0
Tin 0
Moly 78
Nickel 0
Maganese 0
Silver 0
Titanium 0
Potassium 0
Boron 178
Silicon 5
Sodium 14
Calcium 3024
Magnesium 13
Phosphorus 1399
Zinc 1536
Barium 0
SUS 62.3
Flash 435
TBN 13.5
http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultima...c;f=11;t=000185
AVLubricants has been selling it for some time now at $41 for six quarts:
http://store.avlube.com/mo1r0wraoil.html
The ester content is guestimated at 15% by one of the posters over at bobistheoilguy.com
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS...acing_0W-30.asp
Here is a Virgin Oil Analysis (VOA) of Mobil 1R:
Aluminum 0
Chromium 0
Iron 1
Copper 0
Lead 0
Tin 0
Moly 78
Nickel 0
Maganese 0
Silver 0
Titanium 0
Potassium 0
Boron 178
Silicon 5
Sodium 14
Calcium 3024
Magnesium 13
Phosphorus 1399
Zinc 1536
Barium 0
SUS 62.3
Flash 435
TBN 13.5
http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultima...c;f=11;t=000185
AVLubricants has been selling it for some time now at $41 for six quarts:
http://store.avlube.com/mo1r0wraoil.html
The ester content is guestimated at 15% by one of the posters over at bobistheoilguy.com
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A 0w30 should have no low temperature issues - if it ever gets colder than what a 0w30 can handle where you live, I would not go outdoors in a convertible.
The oil analysis is what I expected when i first heard about this oil - they have gone back to high levels of zinc dithiophosphate, the most proven anti-wear and friction modifiers known to modern tribology. These high levels are also found in Amsoil and Red Line. I doubt Mobil1 will be API-certified since the mfr's hate the high ZDPT levels. That is a very high TBN - which makes the Mobil1 R more likely to offer long drain intervals than regular M1.
So, the Mobil1 1 Racing formulation is retro. I think it makes a good case that Amsoil and Red Line have been right all along in not succumbing to industry pressures, and just making the best oil they know how to.
15% ester sounds right, but you can get 100% ester in Red Line, and the Amsoil product has proven that man does not live by esters alone. At a certain point, the only real advantages to esters are their polar affinity to metal, and their high temperature stability, which is more important in turbines than internal combustion engines.
Regarding "theoildrop" and the questions about whether Mobil1 is GIV or GV. There is absolutely no doubt that M1 is PAO!!!!
Here is a quote from their own website:
"Question: Red Line Oil claims to have 100 percent polyolester base stocks. Are these different or better than the base stocks used in Mobil 1 with SuperSyn
The oil analysis is what I expected when i first heard about this oil - they have gone back to high levels of zinc dithiophosphate, the most proven anti-wear and friction modifiers known to modern tribology. These high levels are also found in Amsoil and Red Line. I doubt Mobil1 will be API-certified since the mfr's hate the high ZDPT levels. That is a very high TBN - which makes the Mobil1 R more likely to offer long drain intervals than regular M1.
So, the Mobil1 1 Racing formulation is retro. I think it makes a good case that Amsoil and Red Line have been right all along in not succumbing to industry pressures, and just making the best oil they know how to.
15% ester sounds right, but you can get 100% ester in Red Line, and the Amsoil product has proven that man does not live by esters alone. At a certain point, the only real advantages to esters are their polar affinity to metal, and their high temperature stability, which is more important in turbines than internal combustion engines.
Regarding "theoildrop" and the questions about whether Mobil1 is GIV or GV. There is absolutely no doubt that M1 is PAO!!!!
Here is a quote from their own website:
"Question: Red Line Oil claims to have 100 percent polyolester base stocks. Are these different or better than the base stocks used in Mobil 1 with SuperSyn
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Originally posted by Road Rage
A 0w30 should have no low temperature issues - if it ever gets colder than what a 0w30 can handle where you live, I would not go outdoors in a convertible.
A 0w30 should have no low temperature issues - if it ever gets colder than what a 0w30 can handle where you live, I would not go outdoors in a convertible.