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Old 03-26-2006, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k,Mar 26 2006, 06:37 PM
this is with the car in gear? curious.

i wonder if it's when you try to turn BOTH wheels the same direction that you can't because it's in gear. (i've done this enough times you'd think i'd remember)
It was in gear. You all were making me think I had lost my mind. You are correct when you say to try and turn them both at the same time, then you would be working against the engine
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Originally Posted by FISH22,Mar 26 2006, 06:38 PM
whhhaaaatt???? you have completely lost me! okay, i'm not sure what your saying. when i turn the wheels, the driveshaft is gonna spin no matter what. please clarify yourself, thanks.
Only when the tranny is in neutral will the drive shaft spin. When the car is in gear you are forcing the diff to actually spin the other tire. When I say force it does not mean you have to use alot of effort.
Old 03-26-2006, 05:26 PM
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ah ok, so i had it mixed up too. i humbly stand corrected!!!




just to clarify (thanks gotswap)


if the car is in neutral, and you spin a wheel by hand, the other tire may or may not turn, and this will cause the driveshaft to spin. the other tire's behavior will be unpredictable because of this.

however, if the car is IN GEAR and you spin one wheel, since the drive shaft cannot spin, the OTHER wheel will spin in the OPPOSITE direction. this is because of the nature of the LSD.
Old 03-26-2006, 06:24 PM
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wow! very interesting, i'm definitley gonna try this out tomorrow. i'm curious though, isnt it almost impossible to turn the wheels while its in gear? hmmm, this is all some really good info!
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Originally Posted by FISH22,Mar 26 2006, 08:24 PM
wow! very interesting, i'm definitley gonna try this out tomorrow. i'm curious though, isnt it almost impossible to turn the wheels while its in gear? hmmm, this is all some really good info!
The wheel turns easy enough just make sure it is in gear, both tires are off the ground and the e-brake is off.


Safety disclaimer......use jackstands.
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Originally Posted by gotswap,Mar 26 2006, 09:35 PM
The wheel turns easy enough just make sure it is in gear, both tires are off the ground and the e-brake is off.


Safety disclaimer......use jackstands.
and wheel choks!! so many people forget that when they lift the back end like that, that the front wheels are free to spin and the car could roll right off the jackstands.
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k,Mar 26 2006, 08:42 PM
and wheel choks!! so many people forget that when they lift the back end like that, that the front wheels are free to spin and the car could roll right off the jackstands.
Indeed
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FISH, forget what I've told you. It's been such a long time ago that I had done this, I can't be absolutely sure whether it was in gear or not.
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So his stupid question isn't so stupid after all...
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Apologies to FISH. Gotswap is smarter than all of us.

I just took 5 minutes and went out and did it. Ebrake released, both wheels off ground, tranny IN GEAR. This effectively locks the ring and pinion gear to the tranny and engine (which isn't turning) and allows the rear diff to act as a rear diff and transfer power from one side to the other by reversing the direct of spin. By having it in neutral, the ring and pinion can spin since this disconnects from the tranny. This then lets the LSD come into play, allowing one wheel to spin at a different speed than the other just like when we go around a sharp corner.


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