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Old 06-11-2004, 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by Turtle

IIRC the AEM can datalog the knock sensor to get a baseline for where the normal knockless level is. Best done on genuine high octane fuel during setup (just buy a drum of proper 100 octane - easy enough to get hold of.). There's quite a high level of background noise on the F20C, so if this logging isn't done, then the knock output is going to be of limited use.

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I think this is the approach that Sean from HP freaks and many other tuners take..... you would need to do a base line (for baseline noise) and also advance your timing till a knock is detected.
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Originally posted by AusS2000
Then it's probably bits of piston, ring and valve flying around. Should stop shortly.
Thanks Aus, I needed some comic relief. Best line of the day.

Andy, sounds like severe detonation to me.
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have a look at your spark plugs..might give some indication what has happened so far..
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Originally posted by Kobe
have a look at your spark plugs..might give some indication what has happened so far..
ya, there might be bits missing from it.

Sounds like pure good old fun pinging to me. Except it's way worse than it usually is. Hopefully at idle, it still sounds like you're on 4 cylinders...that should give you some relief and a sign that not everything is lost....yet
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I'd ask your 'tuner' what setup you have for knock, and what the values were like when he logged the car during setup. Because he did do that, right?
I honestly don't know what he has done to start with, he may or may not have done this!! I almost am certain that he hasn't had any race type fuel delivered to put in my car!!!

Where would I go for the GEM's tuners? I've heard Rodger Clarks is the best for GEM's but he's a Subaru tuner!!

One thing I do know, if there is any damage to the engine then I ain't paying for it!!

Thanks again

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"The Garage" in Scotland may be able to help. I know they have been developing a turbo kit for the Mitsubishi FTO which uses a Greddy E-Manage.

They have also worked on Skylines, miatas, GTiR's, MR2's.

http://www.the-garage.co.uk/tuning.htm

The Garage Contact: Marc Light
322 Kirk Road, Wishaw, Scotland
01698 375789 01698 375789
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What's your AFR look like under heavy load, or when you hear the rattling? It sounds like a bad ping. Read your plugs - the easiest and quickest way to find out exactly what your engine is doing.
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Originally posted by Andrew Doherty
I honestly don't know what he has done to start with, he may or may not have done this!! I almost am certain that he hasn't had any race type fuel delivered to put in my car!!!
Then it's unlikely he's done it.

Originally posted by Andrew Doherty
Where would I go for the GEM's tuners? I've heard Rodger Clarks is the best for GEM's but he's a Subaru tuner!!
You're after AEM tuners - Gems designed the system, but the software is different. Possibly worth contacting Gems and asking who they recommend in the UK. The tuner I know with experience of the AEM doesn't have the time to take it on right now.

Originally posted by Andrew Doherty
One thing I do know, if there is any damage to the engine then I ain't paying for it!!
Fingers crossed.

I'd be tempted to save the map, and load the S2000 baseline map. Don't start the car on it, but compare the baseline map to your current map to see exactly what your 'tuner' has or hasn't setup.

-Brian.
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