Interesting read on air filters
#11
The first test of the "data" in this comparison is to determine its validity. Two of the filters listed against the AC Delco brand have been out of production for a while, and two others have been superseded. As for the K/N: I will never support a wet gauze filter - it's a bad idea for everyday street use.
I looked up the filter listed under the Amsoil example (TS123) - out of production for almost 2 years.
The replacement filter (EA123) is a completely different design and significantly more efficient.
The AC Delco in the example is the latest version.
That's not really a legitimate comparison.
I looked up the filter listed under the Amsoil example (TS123) - out of production for almost 2 years.
The replacement filter (EA123) is a completely different design and significantly more efficient.
The AC Delco in the example is the latest version.
That's not really a legitimate comparison.
#14
it's because KnN is high flow air filter.... since it is a high flow filter, filters holes are bigger so they allow more air to flow through the filter. which means you are going to have more dirt flowing through the filter..
#15
Originally Posted by GinoGT,Nov 7 2007, 10:20 AM
That doesn't make sense to be. These guys are into diesel trucks. That means big displacement with lots and lots of boost from the turbo. If that isn't an engine that flows massive amounts of air, I don't know what is.
#16
Old news really. I've seen this on several forums.
K+N promises how many dyno HP? Look at all of the CAI testing data for the car, one even posted a week ago. The Stock works really well.
K+N promises how many dyno HP? Look at all of the CAI testing data for the car, one even posted a week ago. The Stock works really well.
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Originally Posted by Neutered Sputniks,Nov 7 2007, 12:35 PM
I have a mechanic buddy who repeatedly tells me not to drop a K&N filter into anything I drive. The oils eventually wear out the mass airflow sensor and after he and some friends dyno tested their cars/trucks before and after installing K&N kits, they found that they actually LOST power.
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I guess I just kind of shrug when I see this data as it means nothing to me. I go by what I have personally experienced. I have used K&N filters in every car I have owned since college (1988 Accord LXi, 1993 Integra GSR, 1994 Accord EX, 2002 S2000 and 2003 WRX).
The first two never had engine issues and went well over 100K miles before I sold them. I still have the last three and all running flawlessly including the 1994 Accord with 191K miles and counting. I am pretty good about checking the air filters 3 or 4 times a year and make sure not to over oil them as that can cause MAF issues. If I had to guess, I've probably saved close to $1K in air filters and kept hundreds of disposable ones out of the dump. I'm not a tree hugger, but I do care about doing my part.
I could care less about some test when my experience speaks for itself.
Jimbo
The first two never had engine issues and went well over 100K miles before I sold them. I still have the last three and all running flawlessly including the 1994 Accord with 191K miles and counting. I am pretty good about checking the air filters 3 or 4 times a year and make sure not to over oil them as that can cause MAF issues. If I had to guess, I've probably saved close to $1K in air filters and kept hundreds of disposable ones out of the dump. I'm not a tree hugger, but I do care about doing my part.
I could care less about some test when my experience speaks for itself.
Jimbo
#20
Originally Posted by SenderGreen,Nov 7 2007, 08:46 PM
S2000 does not have a Mass Airflow Sensor (MAF).
Regardless, besides a louder intake, there is really very little to no power gains to be had by switching away from stock (as I said, some vehicles actually LOST power when running a K&N filter).