Increasing Compression + 4.777
#11
Originally Posted by Venomous S,Sep 15 2004, 05:29 AM
I think all this amounts to about the same if not a little more than the price of a SC? and youll get way more than 235 whp
just a suggestion
just a suggestion
But Know I prefer the Na route, more challenging I not not looking for raw power.
Iwant i want to know if increasing to 2.2L is better than increase Compression and go with 4.77.
Stoke the engine to 2.2L mean losing 1000 rpms, Run shorter final ratio than 4.44 would be useless
Increase Compression will add only 10 hp? but combinated with the 4.77 cold be a chioce
Any thoughts
#13
I would pick the 12.5:01 compression and 4.77 gears. It will be much more fun to drive.
Edit: What about the 2.2 L with 12.5:01 compression? If you had that option, i would have to pick that.
Edit: What about the 2.2 L with 12.5:01 compression? If you had that option, i would have to pick that.
#15
Originally Posted by Sideways,Sep 15 2004, 07:11 AM
If you can lower the Vtec engagement point a few hundred rpm then the 2.2 liter would have a wide enough power band.
I forgot vtec engagement.
#16
Registered User
Since you said you want the best power curve, I'd probably say to go for 2.2L, too. That will probably give you more "area under the curve". That will improve low-end torque, and you may be able to just import an F22C (rather than adding a stroker kit to your F20C), so that you will still have stock Honda reliability.
If you're going the stroker route, you might as well get the Toda kit that comes with high compression pistons. You should be able to tune it with the EMS to run safely on 98octane.
Keep us posted on this project.
If you're going the stroker route, you might as well get the Toda kit that comes with high compression pistons. You should be able to tune it with the EMS to run safely on 98octane.
Keep us posted on this project.
#17
Great combination Juan. I would have selected the same combination if I stay NA. You should also consider toda/spoon extractor, test pipe and amuse dual/single.
Get the 4.44; you will work less in city driving. My 4.444 and SC is quite tiring to keep it in low boost in city driving.
Get the 4.44; you will work less in city driving. My 4.444 and SC is quite tiring to keep it in low boost in city driving.
#18
Originally Posted by honda9krpm,Sep 15 2004, 02:47 PM
Great combination Juan. I would have selected the same combination if I stay NA. You should also consider toda/spoon extractor, test pipe and amuse dual/single.
Get the 4.44; you will work less in city driving. My 4.444 and SC is quite tiring to keep it in low boost in city driving.
Get the 4.44; you will work less in city driving. My 4.444 and SC is quite tiring to keep it in low boost in city driving.
A year ago with the DC header and HKS EX and 70mm TB I got 214 Hp at the crank
Now I have the 70mm TB, TODA mainfold and stock EX and hope to get better numbers.
#19
Hopefully my engine will be finished in 2-3 weeks and then I can give you some impressions on it.
I will run the toda spec a cams (wanted the spec c cams but they never got them finished), toda 2.2 stroker with 12.7:1 pistons, fully ported head and jenvey individual throttlebodies.
Pretty much the setup you're thinking about.
I will run the toda spec a cams (wanted the spec c cams but they never got them finished), toda 2.2 stroker with 12.7:1 pistons, fully ported head and jenvey individual throttlebodies.
Pretty much the setup you're thinking about.
#20
[QUOTE=S2000_Europe,Sep 14 2004, 08:46 PM] I know a Sc would be easier I had once
But Know I prefer the Na route, more challenging I not not looking for raw power.
Iwant i want to know if increasing to 2.2L is better than increase Compression and go with 4.77.
Stoke the engine to 2.2L mean
But Know I prefer the Na route, more challenging I not not looking for raw power.
Iwant i want to know if increasing to 2.2L is better than increase Compression and go with 4.77.
Stoke the engine to 2.2L mean