how well do you know oil filters
#11
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Originally Posted by John_Z,Apr 15 2007, 09:08 AM
I agree with Mikegarrison but use a tq wrench set at 16ft lb. Why would anyone not follow the Helms manual
OK, so here's the deal on torque wrenches:
What's really important to the car, the torque on the threaded fastener? No. What's really important is the axial stress. But because the thread pitch provides a constant mechanical advantage, the torque can act as a substitute for an axial stress measurement. However, lots of little things can add variability to the torque measurement in either direction.
All else being the same, it's actually more accurate and repeatable to turn the fastener a given number of revolutions than it is to apply a measured torque. It's just that torque is a lot more practical in most cases.
So in theory, the 7/8 of a turn measure is actually more accurate and repeatable than the 16 ft-lb. This is especially true if you don't use a torque wrench which is highly accurate in the 16 ft-lb range, which most general purpose wrneches will not be.
#12
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Originally Posted by S~Factor,Apr 15 2007, 08:30 AM
I agree with the above but I always skip #2. There's already plenty of oil on the engine block from the previous filter.
#13
and there is some type of "DIY" filter lock that uses a spring and a clamp to keep tension on the filter to stay tight, but I can't seem to find any pictures that correspond to a link in Cylcon36 's signature box http://www.s2katlanta.com/forum/showthread.php?t=909 that referenced a picture by Billman250 https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=245303
Anybody know what I'm talking about?
Anybody know what I'm talking about?
#14
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Originally Posted by CitadelBlue,Apr 15 2007, 09:38 PM
Anybody know what I'm talking about?
There's no doubt, though, that the lockwire setup provides even more positive security.
#15
Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Apr 16 2007, 01:03 AM
...There's no doubt, though, that the lockwire setup provides even more positive security.
#16
Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Apr 14 2007, 02:53 PM
For something this simple, it's amazing how many people seem to screw it up. The instructions are as follows:
1) be sure the rubber ring from the last filter is off the engine and the filter seating surface is clean
2) using your finger coat the new filter's rubber seal with a thin film of oil
3) put the filter on by hand, spinning it down until it first contacts the block -- NOT until it is "hand tight", just until it first makes contact
4) then turn it 7/8 of a rotation more (which for most people is easiest to do with a wrench)
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And WTF? "Just felt like using something else"? It's well documented that the Mobil1 filter is dangerous to use on the S2000. We have a very good and very cheap filter from Honda that is specifically designed for our engine. Why would anybody use anything else?
1) be sure the rubber ring from the last filter is off the engine and the filter seating surface is clean
2) using your finger coat the new filter's rubber seal with a thin film of oil
3) put the filter on by hand, spinning it down until it first contacts the block -- NOT until it is "hand tight", just until it first makes contact
4) then turn it 7/8 of a rotation more (which for most people is easiest to do with a wrench)
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And WTF? "Just felt like using something else"? It's well documented that the Mobil1 filter is dangerous to use on the S2000. We have a very good and very cheap filter from Honda that is specifically designed for our engine. Why would anybody use anything else?
Priming the filter prevents about 2-3 seconds of zero to very low oil pressure when you start the engine following an oil change. Otherwise the oil pump has to fill the filter prior to lubricating the engine - it has to force air out of the dry filter.
Filling the filter with oil allows the oil to soak through to the other side of the media, while the drainback valve keeps it from coming out of the center hole. However, don't keep adding oil to point it fills the center section of the filter as well - that just makes a mess.
2-3 seconds may not sound like much - but it adds up over time - as does the wear.
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