S2000 Under The Hood S2000 Technical and Mechanical discussions.

Horsepower=Torque

Thread Tools
 
Old 08-05-2003, 07:57 AM
  #11  
Registered User

 
Halo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 1,233
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

By the looks of it, that car on the last dyno is really gonna snap your head back at 5600 or so!
Old 08-05-2003, 08:57 AM
  #12  
Registered User

 
schwett's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 458
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hybrid
[B]This is a dyno chart from a turbo charged Honda.
Old 08-05-2003, 09:18 AM
  #13  
Registered User
 
Steve@Evolution's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Eastcoast
Posts: 668
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally posted by schwett


not sure if that's lag or inability of the stock low-rpm lobes to move enough air... i've rarely seen a turbo spool so suddenly!

on the other hand, that torque curve is GORGEOUS from 6k -> 9k!!!!!!! 300 lb-ft and flat as a board.
Fully port and polished B18C1 head with Stock GSR cams. It flows but you might be right, the low cam lobe might not be effienciant enough. The turbo is a Precision SC61 T4 configuration. Lags pretty hard until pass 4000+ rpm but still generate a good amount of power before the full spool. Just the graph climbs up furiously. This is done on stock sleeves with JE pistons and Crower rods.
The torque is actually pretty low compare to the amount of power I'm making. Stock bore and stroke just can't make no more unless I play with aggressive timing.
Old 08-05-2003, 10:25 AM
  #14  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Switzerland1010's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Aventura
Posts: 862
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

So no matter what the 5252 equality seems to remain the same.
Old 08-05-2003, 10:46 AM
  #15  
Registered User

 
schwett's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 458
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally posted by Switzerland1010
So no matter what the 5252 equality seems to remain the same.
yes. it has to. per elistan's equation above, horsepower is simply a multiple of torque and engine speed divided by 5252. so at 5252 they are equal. all dynos actually measure torque and speed, then they do the math.
Old 08-05-2003, 11:30 AM
  #16  
Registered User
 
evo s2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: chantilly
Posts: 4,115
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally posted by schwett


yes. it has to. per elistan's equation above, horsepower is simply a multiple of torque and engine speed divided by 5252. so at 5252 they are equal. all dynos actually measure torque and speed, then they do the math.
That's correct, but just remember, the scale for both Horse power and Torque has to be the same. Some people get confused about it.
Old 08-05-2003, 11:42 AM
  #17  
Gold Member (Premium)
 
MrForgetable's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: USC
Posts: 15,959
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Learned something new today
Old 08-05-2003, 02:36 PM
  #18  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Switzerland1010's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Aventura
Posts: 862
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally posted by evo s2000


That's correct, but just remember, the scale for both Horse power and Torque has to be the same. Some people get confused about it.
But I thought there was only one type of Horespower measurement regardless of metric or not. I know the Speed and Torque are different because of a metric or not-metric scale, but HP is the same either way isn't it???
Old 08-05-2003, 02:41 PM
  #19  
Registered User

 
schwett's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 458
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally posted by evo s2000


That's correct, but just remember, the scale for both Horse power and Torque has to be the same. Some people get confused about it.
yes but horsepower and torque are always the same at 5252. what you're saying is slightly different, that if graphed with different scales the line will not cross at the same location graphically. the hp and lb-ft will still be the same at 5252.
Old 08-05-2003, 02:43 PM
  #20  

 
wickerbill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Tulsa, OK
Posts: 3,642
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally posted by evo s2000


That's correct, but just remember, the scale for both Horse power and Torque has to be the same. Some people get confused about it.
This isn't really true. The horsepower will ALWAYS be equal to the torque at 5252 RPM's. There is no "scale" that has to be the same because there is only one formula for horsepower and it is derived from the torque generated at a specific RPM.

Now, if you're talking about the scale on a dyno chart, then yes they need to be the same if you want the torque and horsepower curves to cross at 5252, but even if the scale isn't the same it doesn't change the fact that at that RPM torque and HP are the same numbers even if the curves don't cross at that point because of a difference in scale.


Quick Reply: Horsepower=Torque



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:17 AM.