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Help! Can't get front lower control arm off

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Old 11-28-2006, 11:55 AM
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I have removed the Flange Bolt (26). The Cam Collar (13) won't come out, and the Cam Nut (14) is loose, but is hitting the frame and there isn't enough space between the end of the Cam Collar and the frame to slide it out

How do u remove those pieces?
Old 11-28-2006, 12:56 PM
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...? Anyone?
Old 11-28-2006, 01:02 PM
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You've pulled out bolt 25/nut 30 and the sway bar link too?

Looks to me like 13 can just stay there in the arm till it's off the car.
Old 11-28-2006, 02:14 PM
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Part 13 is siezed to the torsen bushing in the A-arm, I've seen it plenty of times.

Last one I did, I had no alternative but to torch the entire thing apart.

Your best bet is to soak it with some penetrant, let it sit, shock it with a hammer a few times, and hope 13 slides out.
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No, 13 goes all the way through the bushing and fits inside 14. 26 then fits inside 13 and threads into 14. What seems to be the problem is that the contact between the Cam Collar and the bushing seems to be corroded. as I turn the cam collar the whole bushing is turning too! Basically the whole bushing is ripped apart and turning with the cam collar. Now i need to get those separated.
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Yea that's what I was thinking, that it was corroded. Will soaking in Liquid wrench do much? I've been trying to hammer it but I'll soak it a lil. doesn't seem to be doing much
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YES

I know 13 goes into 14, but only slightly. 13 is stuck in the a-arm, so when you try to turn it the rubber twists with it yes?

Well....you're going to have to get that a-arm bushing torn down to just the collar showing. You will then be left with a collar going around 13. You need to air hammer on all four sides of the collar to expand it, so it will let go of 13.
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so looks like I'll need to guy buy an air compressor and air hammer? hmm... that's gonna be quite costly. any other options?

and the rubber comes off how? Screwdriver, hacksaw, and scissors don't work
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Man, I thought the '2k's were too new for problems like this.

What did you torch off, the arm or the head of 13?
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I torched the leftover collar off of 13, after cutting away the rubber with my air hammer.

Get a good penetrating oil, try to get it under nut 14 so it creeps down the collar. Let it sit for an hour.

Use a knife, cut away enough rubber to expose two spots on the collar, so you can grab it with vise grips.

Then hit 13 with an impact gun, and hold it there. You must use the vise grips, or the impact will be abosorbed by the rubber.


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