H & R coilover install... Any tips?
#1
Hey guys, I'll be getting my H & R coilovers sometime next week. I was wondering if this is something that's easy to install. It looks pretty much like a bolt on kit. I'm getting the whole coilover, not just springs or sleeves.
My friend who has installed springs before is probably going to help me out, but I was wondering if anybody could give me any pointers.
Do any of you have these same coilovers on your cars? If so, any tips? What do you think of them? Ride quality, etc? How low should I set it? 1.25"?
Thanks in advance.
My friend who has installed springs before is probably going to help me out, but I was wondering if anybody could give me any pointers.
Do any of you have these same coilovers on your cars? If so, any tips? What do you think of them? Ride quality, etc? How low should I set it? 1.25"?
Thanks in advance.
#3
TIP:
when doing the front DO NOT try to remove the lower ball joint at the joint, just un bolt the whole ball joint assembly (two bolts). The joint is a BITCH!!! I wish I would have known this before installing mine.
when doing the front DO NOT try to remove the lower ball joint at the joint, just un bolt the whole ball joint assembly (two bolts). The joint is a BITCH!!! I wish I would have known this before installing mine.
#5
I believe these are the same as the Bilstein that Mingster is selling. Basically H&R makes the springs and Bilstein the shocks. And they both market the same product under different names.
So my pointers are:
If you paid more, return them and get mingster's.
Follow Mdigrappa's advice.
Make sure to tighten things up to torque specs with the suspension loaded (car on the ground).
I found that trying to lower more than an inch results in serious scrapping on most real world conditions.
Measure the threads and compute the thread step, that is, the distance between threads on the shock. Record this number as the thread step.
Measure wheel hub to fender distance before starting.
Decide how much you want to lower. Bear in mind that you can lower more on one end of the car than the other. The rule of thumb is that lowering more at the back reduces oversteer, lowering more at the front reduces understeer.
Calculate the pretended wheel hub to fender distance.
Make sure that the spring perch on your new coilovers is set exactly the same left & right. To make sure, count threads!
After installation measure the new wheel hub to fender distance.
Compute the difference between the new distances and the ones you pretend.
Divide the result by the thread step computed above. And then divide again by 1.5. Save the result.
Turn the spring perch nuts a number of turns equal to the result calculated immediatly above.
You should now have your car at the desired height.
Align camber & toe.
At the next opportunity corner weight and do a final adjustment of spring perches to remove all jacked weight from your car.
Go out and enjoy .
So my pointers are:
If you paid more, return them and get mingster's.
Follow Mdigrappa's advice.
Make sure to tighten things up to torque specs with the suspension loaded (car on the ground).
I found that trying to lower more than an inch results in serious scrapping on most real world conditions.
Measure the threads and compute the thread step, that is, the distance between threads on the shock. Record this number as the thread step.
Measure wheel hub to fender distance before starting.
Decide how much you want to lower. Bear in mind that you can lower more on one end of the car than the other. The rule of thumb is that lowering more at the back reduces oversteer, lowering more at the front reduces understeer.
Calculate the pretended wheel hub to fender distance.
Make sure that the spring perch on your new coilovers is set exactly the same left & right. To make sure, count threads!
After installation measure the new wheel hub to fender distance.
Compute the difference between the new distances and the ones you pretend.
Divide the result by the thread step computed above. And then divide again by 1.5. Save the result.
Turn the spring perch nuts a number of turns equal to the result calculated immediatly above.
You should now have your car at the desired height.
Align camber & toe.
At the next opportunity corner weight and do a final adjustment of spring perches to remove all jacked weight from your car.
Go out and enjoy .
#6
Sounds good. I got a good deal on them. Guy bought them for his S2000 and is going to sell it and upgrade to a Z06 or M3, so he didn't need them anymore. Never used.
I'll have to play around to get the right height. I'll have somebody align it for me, I just want to install them myself. I like to do my own work if possible. So maybe 1.25" would be good. They adjust from 1-2".
I'll have to play around to get the right height. I'll have somebody align it for me, I just want to install them myself. I like to do my own work if possible. So maybe 1.25" would be good. They adjust from 1-2".
#7
Here's a pic with the car lowered the whole way.
I have since raised the front so that there is a one finger gap all around.
I'm going to get it aligned, but how do I get the camber set?
Do I need a camber kit or does the car already have one? I've heard it does. Just wanna make sure before I get the car aligned.
Thanks for the help. Rides great.
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