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Old 08-11-2004, 01:12 PM
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OK so for the purposes of being curious and trying something different I decided to pick up 2 qts of GM Synthetic Manual Transmission Fluid. My guess is that this will be massive overkill but I figure I'd be a giunea pig It's rather expensive, i.e. $12 online $20 at the dealer, so it's going to have to be really good to be worth the cost. That said I'll post my observations in here once I change over.

Now that said, BEFORE I change over I want to do a sanity check. This is a GL4 fluid, so it is supposed to be safe for yellow metals in the transmission. I understand that this may not shift as well as Honda MTF, but I'm interested to experiment, we'll see.

My one question is that is there any reason that this fluid would cause damage to the transmission(I know it's always possible for some increased wear). I've looked around and read what I've found and it does not appear to be but I want to double check. Just want to make sure this canary is still singing at the end of the experiment, not lying dead at the bottom of the cage
Old 08-11-2004, 01:22 PM
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Are you sure you didn't get GM Synchromesh Trasmission Fluid? The price sounds pretty high for it, but I haven't heard of a GM Synthetic. In either case, GM Synchromesh Friction Modified is the best oil I've found by far. The regular GM Synchromesh fluid is just marginal.
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Holy crap that's expensive... got mine for around $9-10 a liter (ac delco).
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Originally Posted by gernby,Aug 11 2004, 02:22 PM
Are you sure you didn't get GM Synchromesh Trasmission Fluid? The price sounds pretty high for it, but I haven't heard of a GM Synthetic. In either case, GM Synchromesh Friction Modified is the best oil I've found by far. The regular GM Synchromesh fluid is just marginal.
Nope this the full synthetic MTF....GM part # 12346190
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Found this article before on it(this MTF was designed for the NV4500 tranny)

IS GL-4 OBSOLETE?
By Mike NowickiAll rights reserved
Is a GL-4 rated gear lube really obsolete and who cares? When we go back to the Dodge dealer to purchase some GL-4 manual transmission lubricant, we are asked to pay as high as $25.69 per quart. That
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Too long to read...
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..... ok after seaching around some more for numbers I found that this is the Transmission fliud that is also used in Dodge Vipers.....
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Originally Posted by gernby,Aug 11 2004, 02:57 PM
Too long to read...
Yea....it's long but it has some interesting info in it(at least to me)
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Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD,Aug 11 2004, 03:00 PM
Syntorq is a synthetic GL-4. The reasons for a synthetic version are to enhance shifting problems/harshness at low temperatures and reduced high operating temperatures.
This is what intrigued me the most about this MTF.....
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Redline MT-90 is also a synthetic GL-4 rated lube.

Honda specs GL-4 and not GL-5 in the 00-03 manuals for the very same reasons as indicated in the article (yellow metal syncros). I don't have information on the 04 tranny so not sure what's spec'd there since the syncros are said to be different.


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