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[QUOTE=dsddcd,Mar 23 2008, 10:19 AM] I would not think there would be much difference between the local 87 and 91 here. I have a friend that delivers gas and he said that most of the station put the 87 that won
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Originally Posted by SgtB,Mar 23 2008, 07:36 AM
The knock sensor never does a very good job of detecting knock. I sure wouldn't risk it.
The computer is programmed with the assumption you're running the appropriate fuel. It only pulls the timing back once it senses detonation. That means your car will suffer knock (and possible damage) and THEN, and only then will the computer retard the timing.
This is assuming your knock sensor is working properly.
Additionally, your car will always return to normal timing maps, which means your car will suffer from cycles of periodic detonation until you use the appropriate octane fuel.
Detonation = damage.
You might save $2.50 a tankful by going to 87 octane fuel. How many times will your engine detonate on that tank and how much damage will it do?
You might save $1.50 a tankful by going to 89 octane fuel. But is it really worth the risk?
Cut out a latte or two a week, carpool one or two days a week, drink a few less sodas, go with a 6 inch sub instead of a 12 inch during lunch (the weight savings over time will probably reduce your car's consumption too) etc. etc.. There are so many ways to reduce your overall costs that don't involve running the risk of damaging your car.
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Originally Posted by slipstream444,Mar 23 2008, 12:47 PM
Cut out a latte or two a week, carpool one or two days a week, drink a few less sodas, go with a 6 inch sub instead of a 12 inch during lunch (the weight savings over time will probably reduce your car's consumption too) etc. etc.. There are so many ways to reduce your overall costs that don't involve running the risk of damaging your car.
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Originally Posted by HonCBRf2,Mar 23 2008, 05:25 AM
So, has anyone ever done a gas mileage test on all of the different octanes or you just pulling the better gas mileage on premium out of your A$$??
I just finished with a tank of 87 in my '04, it produced 314 miles from the tank that comes out to around 24 mpg(all city driving).
I have now filled up with 89 octane and will give the results when this tank is gone...same style of driving.
Of course this is based off my style of driving, each person will have different results. I'm sure someone is going to argue this...as these people are on every board.
I just finished with a tank of 87 in my '04, it produced 314 miles from the tank that comes out to around 24 mpg(all city driving).
I have now filled up with 89 octane and will give the results when this tank is gone...same style of driving.
Of course this is based off my style of driving, each person will have different results. I'm sure someone is going to argue this...as these people are on every board.
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Originally Posted by shotiable,Mar 23 2008, 03:04 PM
i did one with my dad's accord (2005). 87 octane vs 91 octane. i dont have solid numbers but i came up with the conclusion that i get better gas milage with the 87 octane.
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I agree with slipstream 444. When I purchased my car in March of 2005 from Hendrick Honda in Woodbridge, Va. The car had 41 miles on the odometer. The dealer put in cheap fuel at the delivery of my car, probably 87 octane. I can tell you that the transmission shift knob and engine are vibrating and making louder noise. The knocking sensor has to overwork to prevent engine damage. After that gas tank near empty I put in 91 octane and all the symptoms above are gone. I did not know at the time of delivery because I thought that is how the s2000 is operate. I know this not a ferrari or anything but you have to pay to play, also go out and buy a good set of tires and forged rims that you are able to afford. Cheap gas and inferior tires just do not go well with the s2000.
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The car has a 13.2 gallon tank. It's not that much more to give the car what it needs. Paying the little bit extra for premium can save you possible ill effects later on that could cost you 100x more
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Originally Posted by shotiable,Mar 23 2008, 03:04 PM
i did one with my dad's accord (2005). 87 octane vs 91 octane. i dont have solid numbers but i came up with the conclusion that i get better gas milage with the 87 octane.
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Originally Posted by slipstream444,Mar 23 2008, 12:47 PM
Smart guy talking here. Too much to quote!