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Old 04-30-2013, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by s2kreeper
The valvetrain is MORE capable in AP@'s than in AP1's. Retainers are stronger, etc. It's a common upgrade to change ap1 vales/retainers to ap2 components. This means there is 0 chance of valve to piston contact in ap2's at LEAST to 9k. If I remember correctly, billman said valve to piston contact starts around 10500 on stock part. THe real issue with running that rpm on an f22c is the piston speed. The distance traveled of the piston is greater meaning more stress at the same rpms (hence they lowered the rpm). The true equivalent physically is around 8500, which is what people often raise the redline to, however you can run 9k for short periods, but make no mistake you are drastically shortening your engine life doing so.
Can you explain the underlined part?
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Originally Posted by s2kreeper
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How would you raise redline from 8k to 8500? Wouldn't you have to still buy a stand alone ECU? Since swapping a 03 would make redline at 9k and not be able to change since they're set in stone?
Yep. Stand alone is better than flashpro any ways in terms of extracting the most. It's just expensive, but there are plenty of awesome plug and play ones out there.
Gotcha, may be an ignorant question, but can you adjust vtec crossover on other standalone ECU's? That's the main reason I've been looking into it, to straighten out the torque bad and have a bit more mid range.
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I have an 04 ap2 I'ma buy the hondata k pro but do I have to replace parts and what will that help me
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The ease of install of the Haltech Plug and Play would be my choice over the Kpro.
Old 05-01-2013, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by GT Motoring II
The ease of install of the Haltech Plug and Play would be my choice over the Kpro.
Is there any thread on the forums that actually goes into detail on this? I've never paid much attention...
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Originally Posted by Saki GT
Originally Posted by GT Motoring II' timestamp='1367365013' post='22510940
The ease of install of the Haltech Plug and Play would be my choice over the Kpro.
Is there any thread on the forums that actually goes into detail on this? I've never paid much attention...
Not that I know of. Speedengineer put one in his racecar last year and tuned it himself. It really is as simple as plug and play as far as I know. Other than a breakup around the 7500rpm point, the thing worked great and you didn't have to do anything else to the motor to install sensors, etc. It think he was working with them on solving the 7500rpm issue. His car went on to win two national championships with NASA last year. (Honda Challenge 1, and TTB). I'm unsure of what it would do for emissions, but you can always just pop the oem ECU back in should you need to.
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Haltech is what I have my eyes on as well. It is literally take old ECU out, put new ECU in. I'll go fetch the awesome NA forum thread where some guy used it.

Here it is. This is what I'm modeling my build after, albeit with some modifications obviously. It's an excellent show of what a true bolt-on AP2 can do with good time and tuning.

https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/829...e__hl__haltech
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That's what AEM series 2 does too, plug and play.
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Originally Posted by s2kreeper
Haltech is what I have my eyes on as well. It is literally take old ECU out, put new ECU in. I'll go fetch the awesome NA forum thread where some guy used it.

Here it is. This is what I'm modeling my build after, albeit with some modifications obviously. It's an excellent show of what a true bolt-on AP2 can do with good time and tuning.

https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/829...e__hl__haltech
OMG someone that used a dyno correctly too!

Thanks for posting.
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