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Old 11-27-2006, 05:48 PM
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From this Honda Service Advisory

http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SN/A060800.PDF

"Factory-Fill Engine Oil Looks Dark? It
Old 11-27-2006, 06:45 PM
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It says to leave it in till the first scheduled maintenence, and do not change it.

This has been preached in UTH for years.

Don't see your point....
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More proof that you shouldn't look at your oil when determining change interval. Color doesn't matter.
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Originally Posted by chuhsi,Nov 27 2006, 08:27 PM
More proof that you shouldn't look at your oil when determining change interval. Color doesn't matter.
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Originally Posted by Boofster,Nov 28 2006, 08:53 AM
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Why would you say color doesn't matter? It does matter. I just doesn't matter in this case with the factory fill.
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Are you guys assuming that if the oil color is dark it needs to be changed? That is not true at all. While the darkness or color of the oil is an indication that it is holding ultra fine particulates (that would be one of the oil's main functions), it is not necessarily an indicator that the oil needs to be changed. Oil provides lubricity or separation between the moving metal parts and contains and holds fine particulate matter that is too small for the filter to catch. Otherwise, the particulate matter will collect elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by SheDrivesIt,Nov 28 2006, 02:37 PM
Are you guys assuming that if the oil color is dark it needs to be changed? That is not true at all. While the darkness or color of the oil is an indication that it is holding ultra fine particulates (that would be one of the oil's main functions), it is not necessarily an indicator that the oil needs to be changed. Oil provides lubricity or separation between the moving metal parts and contains and holds fine particulate matter that is too small for the filter to catch. Otherwise, the particulate matter will collect elsewhere.
Correct, but not all oils have the same durability. Some hold up better than others but the color of the oil is an indication that you might want to get it checked considering you've been keeping an eye on your oil's mileage. You will not know for sure until you send a sample to BlackStone.
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Don't know if this topic has been discussed on here as much as it has on the BITOG forums. I present the find as more of an FYI.

In any event, some people were unsure if the factory fill was specially formulated for the breakin period. And folks have had oil analyses done on the factory fill that showed a high moly content. This just serves as the final nail in the coffin that the moly is just assembly lube and isn't part of a black-magic'd concoction for break-in.

The extra mess about color change wasn't necessary to the topic.
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Thanks for the report but that service bulletin has been posted at least 20 times in the past 3 months. Still, it's good info for the new guys that don't bother to search and only look at the stuff listed on the first page they can see.
Now, how much do you want to bet that within the next week we'll see two or three posts from new '06/'07 owners wondering if they should change out their "special factory oil" before their oil minder life has reached 15% or less.
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Well, good to see some other folks beat me to it.

At least we should have a number of different threads with the info for the search to pick up .
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