Even more broken retainers found
11-10-2006, 10:00 AM
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yes but the revlimiter has nothing to do with bent valves. And if you put something with data on the car (like a dl1) you'll find the rev limiter is actually closer to 8900.
To overrev the car enuf to damage your retainers you need to put it in the wrong gear.
To overrev the car enuf to damage your retainers you need to put it in the wrong gear.
11-10-2006, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by krazik,Nov 10 2006, 11:00 AM
yes but the revlimiter has nothing to do with bent valves. And if you put something with data on the car (like a dl1) you'll find the rev limiter is actually closer to 8900.
To overrev the car enuf to damage your retainers you need to put it in the wrong gear.
To overrev the car enuf to damage your retainers you need to put it in the wrong gear.
11-10-2006, 12:27 PM
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krazik Posted on Nov 10 2006, 06:53 PM
Well.. 
I did mention in an earlier post in this thread that (most likely during my first track day when I was shifting down to soon without braking enough a.ka "a wrong gear" and I heared the shifter beeper beep continuously on two or three occasions) it played back 9500 rpm so I was kind of worried and wanted to know when the limiter engages according to the shifter beeper high rev memory to give me some idea of how much I mechanicly overreved my engine.
I don't know how accurate the shifer beeper high rev memory is.
I was not counting on the rev limiter to save me on a downshift causing a mechanical overrev, but wanted to know what Honda thinks is save enough and used the only measuring device I have to give me a rough idea.
And I posted my results / findings
What exactly do you expect this "test" to tell you?
I did mention in an earlier post in this thread that (most likely during my first track day when I was shifting down to soon without braking enough a.ka "a wrong gear" and I heared the shifter beeper beep continuously on two or three occasions) it played back 9500 rpm so I was kind of worried and wanted to know when the limiter engages according to the shifter beeper high rev memory to give me some idea of how much I mechanicly overreved my engine.I don't know how accurate the shifer beeper high rev memory is.
I was not counting on the rev limiter to save me on a downshift causing a mechanical overrev, but wanted to know what Honda thinks is save enough and used the only measuring device I have to give me a rough idea.
And I posted my results / findings
11-10-2006, 12:40 PM
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I'm trying to get a visual of how this works in my head and I have a question...
If your retainers are cracked, it will appear that the valve stem is "sunk in" to them, right? Does that have any actual effect on your valve timing or lift or anything? I'm thinking no, because the rocker arms (or tappets or whatever they're called) contact the end of the valves and the retainer's not involved, but I'm not 100% sure.
If your retainers are cracked, it will appear that the valve stem is "sunk in" to them, right? Does that have any actual effect on your valve timing or lift or anything? I'm thinking no, because the rocker arms (or tappets or whatever they're called) contact the end of the valves and the retainer's not involved, but I'm not 100% sure.
11-10-2006, 12:51 PM
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actually no the valve stem doesn't move (unless you bent a valve and it can't close completely).
The keepers are what look to have sunked.
And correct the rocker arms push on the valve stem to open the valves, and the retainers are used (with the spring) to close the valve.
The keepers are what look to have sunked.
And correct the rocker arms push on the valve stem to open the valves, and the retainers are used (with the spring) to close the valve.
11-10-2006, 01:07 PM
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[QUOTE=mxt_77,Nov 10 2006, 04:40 PM]I'm trying to get a visual of how this works in my head and I have a question...
If your retainers are cracked, it will appear that the valve stem is "sunk in" to them, right?
If your retainers are cracked, it will appear that the valve stem is "sunk in" to them, right?
11-10-2006, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mxt_77,Nov 10 2006, 01:12 PM
Where the rev limiter actually engages.