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Old 12-07-2006, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by S2Kart,Dec 7 2006, 05:48 AM
I'm going to replace the intake retainers and keepers with AP2. Question: While I've got the the cams and rollers off, are there any other parts to replace for good measure? Springs, any seals? My engine has 53K miles on it now. I'll be FI by summer.

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Old 12-07-2006, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by S2Kart,Dec 7 2006, 05:07 PM
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I just replaced all my retainers and I didn't replace a single other thing. I have more mileage on my car, too. YMMV.
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Dec 7 2006, 08:50 PM
I just replaced all my retainers
AP1 or AP2 retainers?
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He went with Texas Instruments brand Retainers
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Originally Posted by Billman250,Dec 7 2006, 06:30 PM
AP1 or AP2 retainers?
No.

I wasn't looking for increased durability, I was looking for higher RPM float margin and was willing to pay the price of decreased durability. Number 22 in the periodic table.
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Sorry for causing some confusion with my previous answer...

Do you think that the lobe (or 'cam') on the camshaft can actually touch the retainer when the valvestem is sunken into the retainer, thus leaving scratchmarks on the retainer and the lobe?
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Originally Posted by mbvt,Dec 8 2006, 05:36 AM
Do you think that the lobe (or 'cam') on the camshaft can actually touch the retainer when the valvestem is sunken into the retainer, thus leaving scratchmarks on the retainer and the lobe?
No, the cams aren't even close to the valvestem/retainer. The cams ride on a roller-rocker and the other end of the rocker arm makes contact w/ the valvestem.
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[QUOTE=mxt_77,Dec 8 2006, 04:17 PM]No, the cams aren't even close to the valvestem/retainer.
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It can cause scoring, or etching of the cam, in extreme cases.

The first car I found with a broken retainer was the worst. The retainer was so high, it was rubbing on the roller of the rocker. The hardened particles, or dust, etched a groove around the middle of one cam lobe.

Even this car had no noise or symptoms.
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Found this pic.....not sure which car, but it's pretty old. Broken retainer on the right:



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