do i really have to use genuine honda antifreeze coolant?
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Great... so the Long Life version isn't compatible with the Green stuff (although I just looked in the bottle of Honda Type II that I bought, and it's green...)? I just bought a gallon of Honda Long Life.
Assuming they aren't compatible, what should I be using in my MY00???
Assuming they aren't compatible, what should I be using in my MY00???
#32
Originally posted by heffergm
Great... so the Long Life version isn't compatible with the Green stuff (although I just looked in the bottle of Honda Type II that I bought, and it's green...)? I just bought a gallon of Honda Long Life.
Assuming they aren't compatible, what should I be using in my MY00???
Great... so the Long Life version isn't compatible with the Green stuff (although I just looked in the bottle of Honda Type II that I bought, and it's green...)? I just bought a gallon of Honda Long Life.
Assuming they aren't compatible, what should I be using in my MY00???
I flushed mine out really well and changed to MOPAR long life orange coolant as our PT Cruiser is also an aluminum engine and this is what is in there. Makes it simple to top up although I've not had to in either car yet.
Here's a link if you're interested on the coolant flush:
http://forums.s2ki.com/forums/showthread.p...&threadid=86811
#35
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I agree - we beat some of these topics to death. I posted previously, and will post again: high silicate (abrasive) formulations of any coolant are terrible for Hondas, and probably any heavily aluminized engine.
I have pictures Honda engineering sent me in my tech files that show the result of abrasive silicates on both the cylinder heads and water pumps of Honda cars. They show the erosion of metal, especially nasty in a car with high RPM and fast flow rates.
Yes, there are different non-silicate formulations, such as G-5 glysantins that Audi and other German companties use, Toyota's "Red" coolant, and others. So any of them probably would be OK - but consider this - some coolants are not cross-compatible, no matter what they may say on the bottle. And it is in the tiniest crevices of the radiator and heads that gelling, as well as corrosion, begin. Once begun, they are practically impossible to correct by flushing or even a chemical "peel". Besides the erosive quality of other coolants, there is the issue of SEAL compatibility. Honda coolants will unquestionably be compatible with the rubber and silicone sealants used in its cars - can you say the same of any other coolant? Do you even know the types of sealants used?
Why not just use Honda's Type 2 and be done with it? There is nothing to lose, and everything to gain. Why do we agonize over inconsequentialities?
I have pictures Honda engineering sent me in my tech files that show the result of abrasive silicates on both the cylinder heads and water pumps of Honda cars. They show the erosion of metal, especially nasty in a car with high RPM and fast flow rates.
Yes, there are different non-silicate formulations, such as G-5 glysantins that Audi and other German companties use, Toyota's "Red" coolant, and others. So any of them probably would be OK - but consider this - some coolants are not cross-compatible, no matter what they may say on the bottle. And it is in the tiniest crevices of the radiator and heads that gelling, as well as corrosion, begin. Once begun, they are practically impossible to correct by flushing or even a chemical "peel". Besides the erosive quality of other coolants, there is the issue of SEAL compatibility. Honda coolants will unquestionably be compatible with the rubber and silicone sealants used in its cars - can you say the same of any other coolant? Do you even know the types of sealants used?
Why not just use Honda's Type 2 and be done with it? There is nothing to lose, and everything to gain. Why do we agonize over inconsequentialities?
#36
Well the coolant costs something like $25 a gallon here, so they definitely are making plenty of profit on me!
EU Maintenance schedule for my MY'00 says 45000km or 3 years on the coolant, with the first batch staying in for 75000km.
Not to mention the $60 wiper blades......
///Robin
EU Maintenance schedule for my MY'00 says 45000km or 3 years on the coolant, with the first batch staying in for 75000km.
Not to mention the $60 wiper blades......
///Robin
#39
the 02 S2000 I bought last year was 7 years old at the time and had the original coolant. I drained it after getting the car and was amazed how clean the radiator was when empty. There wasn't one spec of build up or corrosion anywhere, it could have passed as a new rad by the way it looked. That's enough to keep me using it into the future.