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Clutch install UPDATE: AIR PUMP CEL?!?!

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Old 03-27-2006, 10:24 AM
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this weekend, ive started work on my clutch (ACT pressure plate install). I was able to get the clutch disk, TO bearing and pressure plate installed on the flywheel side, but having a hard time getting the tranny to mate back to the block. there is an inch of space that just wont close.

It seems like the shaft doesnt want to go back into the pilot bearing or the splines wont line up. I used the OEM alignment tool to install also. High temp grease was used, and everything is torqued to spec. The tranny bolts are long enought so i can get a few turns it the opposite side. Is it safe to just start cranking them down to 'force' the tranny and block to mate?
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It sounds like the friction disc is not centered relative to the pilot bearing. I wrestled with this exact problem for a couple of hours last fall. I was using an improvised alignment tool. When I ditched the alignment tool and 'eyeballed' the alignment, it slipped right in on the first try. Back some of the pressure plate bolts off enough that you can move the friction disc around and align it by eye.

Here's what it looked like right before it went back together:
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ic.. thanks for the imput.
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I can affirm what SC_Highlander is saying. We had the same problem you did. We ended up using an improvised clutch alignment tool as well (precision whittled broom handle ), and we spent a lot of time with our heads up in the transmission tunnel checking the alignment. Loosening up the PP bolts helped a lot. We very carefully aligned the clutch, pilot bearing, and throwout bearing, and when we put the tranny back in the second time, it all went fairly smoothly.
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well i USED the honda clutch tool, i would figure that would line it up... i guess not?
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You would think so, but.. who knows. We didn't have one. Initially, we were only off by a few millimeters, but that wasn't good enough. The tolerances on this car are *VERY* tight, so everything needs to be lined up perfectly.
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Originally Posted by hecash,Mar 27 2006, 02:31 PM
I found that if someone held the plastic "OEM" tool absolutely perpindicular while I was bolting the pressure plate,
thats exactly what i did, but it still wont go all the way in....
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did the shaft get turned while the trans was out if so the splines mut not be lined up properly
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Originally Posted by SC-S2000,Mar 27 2006, 04:25 PM
did the shaft get turned while the trans was out if so the splines mut not be lined up properly
yes it did, but i tried pushing it in while my helper slowley cranked the drive pulley in front... still no go.
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the splines get engaged before the last push. If it's not going in, the face of the input shaft is bumping the side of the pilot bearing on the flywheel.


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