Check engine light experience
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Check engine light experience
i dont post really but i check here and there for information. anyways i had CE light a few months back that very unexpected, and I can totally seeing this happen to other ap1s just because they are older, and obviously have older parts, but this could happen to any s2k. so I thought I would share it . So I uploaded the pics off my phone as I was doing it to put it up here.. 01 s2k. one morning wake up to go to store, try to start the car and it starts up but sounds totally different, obvious that it was misfiring, and I had a flashing ce light. shut the car off. Inspected each ignition coil/spark plug, first one was fine, next 3 as I pulled them out were full of oil which was not allowing the spark plugs to spark. At the time unfortunately I did not have the cash to get new plugs and some new ignition coils so I experimented. I would suggest NOT doing this. I'm the guinea pig for this. Upon checking each ignition coil out you can see the rubber seal at the top is really messed up and puffy, and not even glued in place compared to the one that is working fine on the right. 3 of the ignition coils were like this.
that gap where the arrows are at, is pretty much where the oil is at and that was overflowing into where the spark plugs were, because the rubber seals were just not sealed at all on the ignition coil.
next i got some electronic cleaner from local store and cleaned out each of the ignition coils, including the ones that had oil all over them. Just a warning, becareful how long you keep any sort of cleaner on any rubberized stuff, sometimes it messes it up, sometimes it doesnt. so if you DO use any, make sure to get it off quickly. Precaution - test a small area first too.
Next step was to get the rubberized seals back into the right spot and then glued. This is obviously the gamble here. The temp where these coils are is really high gotta have the right glue to withstand the temps. The glue I happend to have was Rhino Glue which I purchased for 25 bucks online to try to fix a few things while replacing my rear shattered window. The glue is stated to have some heat resistance, but I highly doubt the temperatures where it will actually be placed. I'm sure there are far more superior an proper glues for something like this. (again, if you got the money just buy new ignition coils and be done with it)
I used a random string i found to keep it tight an sealed as it dried. (remember since they got jacked up, the oil that was on them saturated into the rubber and pretty much 'fluffed it' so its way more puffy than normal which made it a bit harder to get seated properly and glued.
The ignition coil second from the right, is the only one that was working fine. You can totally see how the rubber seal looks normal. Then you can see the ones that I touched lolllllllllll all funky as hell looking all deformed.
After all said and done, I got the new replacement ignition coils, and some new spark plugs a week after I did that fix. I have not changed the ignition coils and they are still working perfect (2-3 months later). I originally checked the status of them every 3 days just to see how it was working out. Then it became a week, and slowly it got to the point where I only have to check on it every 2 months during oil change or what not. I still have the new ignition coils and am just waiting for the right moment to get them in with new plugs, and few other parts i've been savin for. plan on doing it all in one shot you know. If you have the money, buy new ignition coils and plugs just for the hell of it since you're buying the coils already to save yourself some time, troubleshooting, and even maybe potentially doing more harm to your car. If you dont have the money, then just wait and save. If you get bored and dont mind trying things out of desperation like me!!! ahah DO IT!!
Forum admins can move this post to the proper location, I just wanted to bring this to peoples attention, cuz it got my attention. there was absolutely NO warning symptoms for this. Just one day, woke up, car started, sounded like only 1 cylider was running, check engine light was on and flashing nonstop then I shut the car off and did this.
cat was chillin with me too while doing most of this. she told me to do it
that gap where the arrows are at, is pretty much where the oil is at and that was overflowing into where the spark plugs were, because the rubber seals were just not sealed at all on the ignition coil.
next i got some electronic cleaner from local store and cleaned out each of the ignition coils, including the ones that had oil all over them. Just a warning, becareful how long you keep any sort of cleaner on any rubberized stuff, sometimes it messes it up, sometimes it doesnt. so if you DO use any, make sure to get it off quickly. Precaution - test a small area first too.
Next step was to get the rubberized seals back into the right spot and then glued. This is obviously the gamble here. The temp where these coils are is really high gotta have the right glue to withstand the temps. The glue I happend to have was Rhino Glue which I purchased for 25 bucks online to try to fix a few things while replacing my rear shattered window. The glue is stated to have some heat resistance, but I highly doubt the temperatures where it will actually be placed. I'm sure there are far more superior an proper glues for something like this. (again, if you got the money just buy new ignition coils and be done with it)
I used a random string i found to keep it tight an sealed as it dried. (remember since they got jacked up, the oil that was on them saturated into the rubber and pretty much 'fluffed it' so its way more puffy than normal which made it a bit harder to get seated properly and glued.
The ignition coil second from the right, is the only one that was working fine. You can totally see how the rubber seal looks normal. Then you can see the ones that I touched lolllllllllll all funky as hell looking all deformed.
After all said and done, I got the new replacement ignition coils, and some new spark plugs a week after I did that fix. I have not changed the ignition coils and they are still working perfect (2-3 months later). I originally checked the status of them every 3 days just to see how it was working out. Then it became a week, and slowly it got to the point where I only have to check on it every 2 months during oil change or what not. I still have the new ignition coils and am just waiting for the right moment to get them in with new plugs, and few other parts i've been savin for. plan on doing it all in one shot you know. If you have the money, buy new ignition coils and plugs just for the hell of it since you're buying the coils already to save yourself some time, troubleshooting, and even maybe potentially doing more harm to your car. If you dont have the money, then just wait and save. If you get bored and dont mind trying things out of desperation like me!!! ahah DO IT!!
Forum admins can move this post to the proper location, I just wanted to bring this to peoples attention, cuz it got my attention. there was absolutely NO warning symptoms for this. Just one day, woke up, car started, sounded like only 1 cylider was running, check engine light was on and flashing nonstop then I shut the car off and did this.
cat was chillin with me too while doing most of this. she told me to do it
#2
STOP STOP STOP!!!!!! you are doing this all wrong. if you are getting oil into your spark plug tubes it means the spark plug gaskets underneath the valve cover are not sealing correctly. take the valve cover off and see if the gaskets are there and/or split.
I had to deal with this when i replaced my gaskets and when they got ripped the oil went into the spark plug tubes.
I had to deal with this when i replaced my gaskets and when they got ripped the oil went into the spark plug tubes.
#4
Originally Posted by k00kaine,Oct 24 2010, 11:34 PM
that gap where the arrows are at, is pretty much where the oil is at and that was overflowing into where the spark plugs were, because the rubber seals were just not sealed at all on the ignition coil.
the rubber seal on the coil is mainly to keep dust dirt and water out of the spark plug tube.
#7
heres a pic of what you need. number 4 in the pic.
putting these in make sure you have put oil on the inside of the rings so when you put the valve cover on they slip over the spark plug tubes. theres a good post on here on how to put them in.
putting these in make sure you have put oil on the inside of the rings so when you put the valve cover on they slip over the spark plug tubes. theres a good post on here on how to put them in.
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