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Old 01-17-2006, 06:59 AM
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I'm possibly purchasing a 2005 S2000 that was originally purchased in Oct of 2004. The car now has only 670 miles on it. It still has the original oil in it. Should I change the oil right away or wait a couple thousand miles? Any other issues I might encounter with a year old, very low mileage vehicle? Any advice or input would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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if it has the original oil in it, change it, and put in regualar conventional oil. might i suggest havoline GF4.
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Change the oil with non synthetic. 1 year is past the interval, regardless of mileage. Keep up with non synth until you hit 10k. Other than that, you should have zero problems. It's recommended you change the differential oil around 5k-10k miles as well to remove any particles worn off during the break in period.
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I thought the S came with special break-in oil. Won't he have problems with the rings not seating if he doesn't use a special oil for the first few thousand miles?
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k,Jan 17 2006, 11:00 AM
if it has the original oil in it, change it, and put in regualar conventional oil. might i suggest havoline GF4.
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My understanding is that the original fill has a high moly content. If you are really concerned you could add a can of "Break-in" with the oil change. I did this on mine after 1700 miles on the original oil. I changed the oil early because I was storing the car for 6 months.

http://www.mrmoly.com/break-in.html
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I had a similar situation --I bought an 05 new from the dealer in Oct 05 that had been on his lot since Oct 04--it had 258 miles.
After doing much searching here, I changed the oil and filter with conventional oil (not synthetic) and added a high Moly additive ---many folks on this board (as well as other oil-related web sites) recommended Valvoline Max Life Engine Treatment as one of the best ways to add the extra Moly to duplicate the factory fill--I found it for about 4 bucks at Walmart
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I'm one who doesn't believe in this "special" breakin oil. I've given my reasons before, so I won't bore you with it again.

As for maintenance on this car, I would suggest you go throught the schedule and note all the things that should have been done up to and including the age of the car. Never mind the mileage as this no longer applies. TIME will always take precedence over mileage if mileage is low. It's whatever COMES FIRST!
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There IS a high moly count in the factory fill, and it IS intended for initial break-in...but most of its job is done within a couple hundred miles (if indeed it does anything at all, which is debatable).

Regardless, that's old oil, so as everyone's said, change it with a good non-synthetic and you're good to go. Don't bother with any additives; you'll just gunk things up.
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Originally Posted by twohoos,Jan 17 2006, 12:18 PM
There IS a high moly count in the factory fill, and it IS intended for initial break-in...but most of its job is done within a couple hundred miles (if indeed it does anything at all, which is debatable).
The moly was not put there intentionally (IMO). It just happened to be there from all the assembly lube. It's job is done within less than a minute after the engine is first fired up. After that, it just floats around and the actual benefit it gives in the breakin process of an S2000 engine is suspect.
Honda doesn't want us to switch to synthetic too soon because the extra "slippery-ness" of it will retard the breakin of the rings due to them sliding inside FRM cylinder liners. If moly contributes to more "slippery-ness" in the oil mix, then it's the last thing you want floating around during the breakin process. Honda calls the factory oil fill as "special" but I believe they have other motives behind using this term.
DISCLAIMER: These are my own thoughts on the matter and my own theories and may not represent the actual truth.


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