Originally Posted by blasphemy101

Not trying to come off the wrong way, but I hate to see people talking themselves into expensive replacements when repairs/rebuilds are all that's necessary. If someone told you that you "blew the head" when you downshifted, ask for a more accurate explanation of the problem, and bring that information here, to the site.

There are plenty of people here with the knowledge to guide you in the right direction. Sometimes, a replacement is absolutely necessary. More often than not, there is a cheaper and just as satisfactory solution.

Originally Posted by PaGEmaZt3r

thats what i figured but my situation isnt easy, im military and while on leave in my homestate 14 hours away from my duty station this occured so my car is sitting in missouri while im in texas, i have a friend that is a honda tech in which will fix it while im gone and we both think i probably bent all the valves and im hoping they didntdrop on the cylinders and tear the bottom end up, we will see

Originally Posted by blasphemy101

Definitely crossing my fingers for you man! That sucks that you have to be so far away while you work things out. If you didn't drop any valves and damage the cylinder or bottom of the head, just have the head pulled and the valves replaced. The AP2 retainer swap (which there is plenty of information on this site about) is always a good idea, too.

I have no idea how the bottom end fairs at those RPMs though, but during an over-rev they're pretty brief...

Originally Posted by PaGEmaZt3r

no i completely understand and i am a mechanic myself, i plan on just rebuilding the current head with aftermarket parts, titanium valves, cams and such but if just for backup i wanteed to know if i would be able to just buy one if it comes down to it, its my daily driver

Originally Posted by blasphemy101

Oh, okay I gotcha. Heads pop up for sale semi-often. I would probably go with one of those, just because of the cost. Buying someone's head for well under $1k and then dropping performance cams/valves/retainers in for ~$800 beats Honda's price for a brand new head in my book.

Originally Posted by PaGEmaZt3r

thank you so much, ypu were a great help!

Originally Posted by blasphemy101

No problemo. Definitely get a second opinion, though - I talk out of my ass A LOT (going to regret saying that ) post up the progress. There are plenty of people happy to add their $0.02