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Any Reason NOT To use Quick Change Oil Valve?

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Old 03-14-2012, 03:54 PM
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There was a post where someone had a cone lodge against the valve during an autocross which caused the valve to open. I think failure is unlikely, but it is possible and worth at least considering!
Old 03-14-2012, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by s2000maniac
Originally Posted by Billman250' timestamp='1331696848' post='21506790
Not a fan at all. nothing beats the reliability of a drain plug.

The fumoto valve also leaves a good amount of oil in the pan. Try it. Drain with the valve, then unscrew the valve and watch how much oil comes out.

ANY valve can get lodged with debris, and leak. Likely explains why every one I see is damp with oil.

You guys may have good luck with them but I advise against them.
that is true, but if you jack up the driver side of the car after all the oil has come out and dripping, the rest of the oil will come out.
By the time you go through the extra labor of jacking the car up, how much labor is the wonder-valve saving you? Bill has worked on more s2ks than all of us combined, so if every valve he sees is damp with oil that is saying something. I don't get what is so hard about unscrewing the drain plug, it can even be done with the car on the ground if somebody really insisted on such a thing.
Old 03-14-2012, 05:48 PM
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Ah yes, forgot about the magnetic drain plug benefit Ikeyballz mentioned. Hey at my age I check for blood every time I wipe my ass, it's just as reassuring to see a clean drain plug.
Old 03-14-2012, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by NFRAP2
Originally Posted by s2000maniac' timestamp='1331699684' post='21506905
[quote name='Billman250' timestamp='1331696848' post='21506790']
Not a fan at all. nothing beats the reliability of a drain plug.

The fumoto valve also leaves a good amount of oil in the pan. Try it. Drain with the valve, then unscrew the valve and watch how much oil comes out.

ANY valve can get lodged with debris, and leak. Likely explains why every one I see is damp with oil.

You guys may have good luck with them but I advise against them.
that is true, but if you jack up the driver side of the car after all the oil has come out and dripping, the rest of the oil will come out.
By the time you go through the extra labor of jacking the car up, how much labor is the wonder-valve saving you? Bill has worked on more s2ks than all of us combined, so if every valve he sees is damp with oil that is saying something. I don't get what is so hard about unscrewing the drain plug, it can even be done with the car on the ground if somebody really insisted on such a thing.
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I would like to know how many is all?
Old 03-14-2012, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mister x
Ah yes, forgot about the magnetic drain plug benefit Ikeyballz mentioned. Hey at my age I check for blood every time I wipe my ass, it's just as reassuring to see a clean drain plug.

There is so little iron in our motors would a magnetic plug be worth using?
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Billman dis approved. /thread.
Old 03-15-2012, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by sillyboybmxer
if you dont drive your car.
even then, every 6 months is recommended
Haha!
Recommended by who?
The "severe maintenance schedule" in a 13 year old manual?

Because (let me guess) you drive the car hard.... right?
It spends every rev it makes from a start between 6k and 9k rpm and you're on the trottle or on the brakes.... right?
On public roads... right?


The right oil can do 20k miles / year without any problem.
Driving 20k miles a year means you drive it every (work) day, and not just down the block.

Drive less a year, use the right oil and you can still do yearly changes.
No problems at all.

Its 2012.

Old 03-15-2012, 02:15 PM
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I still dont see how you can go 20-25k miles a on single oil change, I really don't!
Old 03-15-2012, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by G
Originally Posted by mister x' timestamp='1331776092' post='21509775
Ah yes, forgot about the magnetic drain plug benefit Ikeyballz mentioned. Hey at my age I check for blood every time I wipe my ass, it's just as reassuring to see a clean drain plug.

There is so little iron in our motors would a magnetic plug be worth using?
Just another thing to keep an eye out for. Cotters, springs, cams, any sort of gears -they all use iron! The block and rings definitely dont but there are other things that break.. My drain plug caught a valve cotter (solid piece, lucky I guess) after I got my valve retainers swapped. It would've been a PITA if it had gotten stuck in the pump.
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personally I enjoy getting under the car to do an oil change. Gives me a chance to take a look around and look at everything


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