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Old 11-18-2015, 02:59 PM
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I guess you have to define "regular brake fluid". Most brake fluids I've used are as high or higher for their dry boiling point.
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Originally Posted by yamahaSHO
I guess you have to define "regular brake fluid". Most brake fluids I've used are as high or higher for their dry boiling point.

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I believe ATE 200 or super blue has a dry boiling point of like...530 degrees? Which other run of the mill, off the shelf DOT3 fluid does that? Valvoline synthetic DOT4 is probably the highest dry boiling point fluid available at most parts stores...and that's like 400something degrees, IIRC.

But that has nothing to do with OP's post or issue.
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Originally Posted by B serious
Originally Posted by yamahaSHO' timestamp='1447891167' post='23806962
I guess you have to define "regular brake fluid". Most brake fluids I've used are as high or higher for their dry boiling point.

Trolling?
Or just has ADD. I got so confused to see people talk about high temp brake fluid in a thread about grinding shifts, lol.
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Originally Posted by shind3
Or just has ADD. I got so confused to see people talk about high temp brake fluid in a thread about grinding shifts, lol.
I am equally confused
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Originally Posted by B serious
Originally Posted by yamahaSHO' timestamp='1447891167' post='23806962
I guess you have to define "regular brake fluid". Most brake fluids I've used are as high or higher for their dry boiling point.

Trolling?

I believe ATE 200 or super blue has a dry boiling point of like...530 degrees? Which other run of the mill, off the shelf DOT3 fluid does that? Valvoline synthetic DOT4 is probably the highest dry boiling point fluid available at most parts stores...and that's like 400something degrees, IIRC.

But that has nothing to do with OP's post or issue.


Valvoline's dry boiling point is 480 compared to ATE's 536. Neither should boil in your CLUTCH line.
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OK, you don't need high performance brake fluid for your clutch hydraulics. However, if you already have brake fluid lying around, or you don't feel like buying fluid just for your clutch, that you won't ever use in your brakes, then there is certainly nothing wrong with using DOT 4 high performance high boiling point fluid in your clutch.

I didn't get the impression the guy thinks using performance fluid is going to fix his shifts, but rather that known fresh fluid, properly bled, so as to rule out clutch hydraulics, was what he was going for.

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It looked like new - after about 21,000 miles? Not surprising since the gearbox oil change interval is 120.000 miles or 6 years. Nothing to get it dirty, unlike the engine where combustion waste gets by the rings, etc. I changed mine last weekend at about 12,000 miles anyway since I was under the car to change the oil and it uses the same tools. And it always seems smoother when fresh. (Unlike the differential which needs two separate wrenches (23mm and 24mm?).

When I was a rookie S2000 driver (last year ) I inquired about shifting and the advice was 4300 rpm. I find it a good shift point, especially between 1 and 2.

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Originally Posted by kimdani1
As for the clutch fluid, it hasn't been changed since the car was built. It's time to change the fluid and in the main threads on this forum about changing the clutch fluid, everyone seemed to recommend the ATE stuff. Obviously it's not the elixir of life, but I thought it was worth going with what people seemed to have success with.
Just use the same fluid for the brakes and the clutch masters. That way, you don't need to stock two separate brands. I use ATE DOT4 for the brakes, therefore ATE for the clutch.

One thing... if the clutch fluid is dirty, drawing out the old stuff and putting in new stuff does help.
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Originally Posted by yamahaSHO
Originally Posted by B serious' timestamp='1447891493' post='23806969
[quote name='yamahaSHO' timestamp='1447891167' post='23806962']
I guess you have to define "regular brake fluid". Most brake fluids I've used are as high or higher for their dry boiling point.

Trolling?

I believe ATE 200 or super blue has a dry boiling point of like...530 degrees? Which other run of the mill, off the shelf DOT3 fluid does that? Valvoline synthetic DOT4 is probably the highest dry boiling point fluid available at most parts stores...and that's like 400something degrees, IIRC.

But that has nothing to do with OP's post or issue.


Valvoline's dry boiling point is 480 compared to ATE's 536. Neither should boil in your CLUTCH line.
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?? That's what I said in the first place....

Originally Posted by B serious
ATE works well for brakes because it has a higher boiling point than regular brake fluid. I'm not sure why or how it would work make a clutch hydraulic system work better.
What is happening here?

This is the worst thread ever.
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Meh, I've seen worse... Especially on this forum.


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