as the years roll by, acceleration stays the same
09-05-2007 | 07:50 AM
#32
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From: SoCal
I just got my07 a month ago, and it was my first new car purchase. When I had decided its time to trade in my pilot, I went straight to the Honda dealership and did not go to any other dealerships, for 350z, VW R32, RX8, Evo, or STI. However, I kind of regret not testing the 350z since it is a fast car, but I know I will end up with the s2000 anyway so I didn't bother.
PS so far, one thing I like the most about the s2000 is its HID, its band is so wide, and cut off is so sharp.
PS so far, one thing I like the most about the s2000 is its HID, its band is so wide, and cut off is so sharp.
09-05-2007 | 08:49 AM
#33
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From: Northeast Jersey
Our car could use a litte more juice in the engine bay department. This past weekend I went down the shore with a buddy of mine (225 lbs) and myself (180 lbs) and I had a hard time pulling away from a 2003 Maxima with 5 people in the car... that's horrible.
I admire this car for fun on the twisties and I know it's made for turns and not staight line... but when you drive a sexy car like ours and looks to be really fast and then you have a family sedan with a V-6 with a husband + wife + 2 kids keeping up with you on the highway... there's definitely something wrong with that picture.
Andre
I admire this car for fun on the twisties and I know it's made for turns and not staight line... but when you drive a sexy car like ours and looks to be really fast and then you have a family sedan with a V-6 with a husband + wife + 2 kids keeping up with you on the highway... there's definitely something wrong with that picture.
Andre
09-05-2007 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Sep 5 2007, 12:41 AM
Let's pretend Honda did come up with some sort of bigger-engine S2000. Call it a 340 HP 3.2 V6. Now the driveline has to be heavier, the chassis needs to be strengthened, and so the weight goes up to 3100. Still a significant power/weight increase. The car will be faster.
It's now a $41K car.
At that price point these days, it needs a retractible hardtop to compete. Bigger wheels, too. That adds another $2K and 150 pounds and takes away half the trunk space.
Now you have a $43K, 3250 lb car with about a 55/45 F/R weight distribution.
That still might be a nice car, and it will probably be a faster one.
But I predict that most of the auto world would be saying, "well, it's faster, but it's just not the fun little go-kart of a roadster that the old S2000 was...."
But hey, it will beat those 350Zs in the street races!
It's now a $41K car.
At that price point these days, it needs a retractible hardtop to compete. Bigger wheels, too. That adds another $2K and 150 pounds and takes away half the trunk space.
Now you have a $43K, 3250 lb car with about a 55/45 F/R weight distribution.
That still might be a nice car, and it will probably be a faster one.
But I predict that most of the auto world would be saying, "well, it's faster, but it's just not the fun little go-kart of a roadster that the old S2000 was...."
But hey, it will beat those 350Zs in the street races!
09-05-2007 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Sep 5 2007, 02:41 AM
Let's pretend Honda did come up with some sort of bigger-engine S2000. Call it a 340 HP 3.2 V6. Now the driveline has to be heavier, the chassis needs to be strengthened, and so the weight goes up to 3100. Still a significant power/weight increase. The car will be faster.
It's now a $41K car.
At that price point these days, it needs a retractible hardtop to compete. Bigger wheels, too. That adds another $2K and 150 pounds and takes away half the trunk space.
Now you have a $43K, 3250 lb car with about a 55/45 F/R weight distribution.
That still might be a nice car, and it will probably be a faster one.
But I predict that most of the auto world would be saying, "well, it's faster, but it's just not the fun little go-kart of a roadster that the old S2000 was...."
But hey, it will beat those 350Zs in the street races!
It's now a $41K car.
At that price point these days, it needs a retractible hardtop to compete. Bigger wheels, too. That adds another $2K and 150 pounds and takes away half the trunk space.
Now you have a $43K, 3250 lb car with about a 55/45 F/R weight distribution.
That still might be a nice car, and it will probably be a faster one.
But I predict that most of the auto world would be saying, "well, it's faster, but it's just not the fun little go-kart of a roadster that the old S2000 was...."
But hey, it will beat those 350Zs in the street races!
Besides... I personally would like a $50,000 Honda premium sports car... and so would a lot of other people. Why do you think that sub-$50k NSX's sell so quickly? The second they drop into a middle class price range, people snatch them up. $80,000 was too much, but if Honda made a $50,000 sports car, it would sell like hotcakes.
09-05-2007 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by nastinupe1,Sep 5 2007, 10:21 AM
if Honda made a $50,000 sports car, it would sell like hotcakes.
09-05-2007 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by nastinupe1,Sep 5 2007, 09:25 AM
They could make the car an Acura again. Besides, if the "other" H can make and sell $30k cars, Honda can sell a $50k sports car. I mean, the NSX was $80k over 10 years ago! That's like $100,000 today!
09-05-2007 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by nastinupe1,Sep 5 2007, 10:25 AM
They could make the car an Acura again. Besides, if the "other" H can make and sell $30k cars, Honda can sell a $50k sports car. I mean, the NSX was $80k over 10 years ago! That's like $100,000 today!
I like where this is going!
Acura should release a $50k "premium" sports car. Of course, it would have to conform to Acura's levels of luxury, be quiet and smooth, offer premium level options like navigation and dual zone climate control. All these things would probably push the car up in weight a bit, and sacrifice some raw handling.
Then, everyone would complain. "Why can't we have a stripped down version of this $50k Acura? I don't need all the bells and whistles!! Give us a raw, light-weight sports car, and sell it at $34k as a Honda!!"
See where this is going?
09-05-2007 | 09:46 AM
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From: Northeast Jersey
Why is everyone adding so much to all these equations?
Why would you have to beef up the chassis or the tranny? There's people on here with 500 whp with the stock tranny and the factory chassis and there is nothing breaking.
All this car would need would be maybe a 2.5L I-5 or I-6 to keep at least the 8000 Reline with 300 hp and still almost keep the 50/50 weight distribution. A little bump in HP wouldn't need so much upgrading of everything else.
That really shouldn't be a hard task for Honda considering all they've accomplished so far.
Andre
Why would you have to beef up the chassis or the tranny? There's people on here with 500 whp with the stock tranny and the factory chassis and there is nothing breaking.
All this car would need would be maybe a 2.5L I-5 or I-6 to keep at least the 8000 Reline with 300 hp and still almost keep the 50/50 weight distribution. A little bump in HP wouldn't need so much upgrading of everything else.
That really shouldn't be a hard task for Honda considering all they've accomplished so far.
Andre