Will wrapping my s2000 devalue the car?
#21
#22
First, if you wrap, get the shop to take a bunch of pics of the car right before wrapping so you have at least some info on how the car looked without the wrap. I mean a seller can always fake these things but at least you have some proof of the condition pre-wrap.
The car I co-drive is wrapped, and I will say, it does not look as good as you are thinking 5 years later. The hood has these micro crack looking lines all over it from heat. A lot of the car looks fine, but the hood is the worst part. I am not sure what the lifespan of wrapping is supposed to be, and the car I am talking about is an ND miata which only is driven at autocross events (never sees daily use and has only 12,000 miles on it with all of that being on a track or autocross course since new) so it is not much of a concern, but if you wanted a nice painted look just remember it does not age as well of course. Now, he probably does not take as much care to keep it perfect being it is a purpose built car, but just some input. As far as we know, the company that bought it new to develop parts for it wrapped it as soon as they got it so that would have been brand new. Its a 2016 so I assume it has been wrapped since late 2015 sometime to give a gauge of the age.
The car I co-drive is wrapped, and I will say, it does not look as good as you are thinking 5 years later. The hood has these micro crack looking lines all over it from heat. A lot of the car looks fine, but the hood is the worst part. I am not sure what the lifespan of wrapping is supposed to be, and the car I am talking about is an ND miata which only is driven at autocross events (never sees daily use and has only 12,000 miles on it with all of that being on a track or autocross course since new) so it is not much of a concern, but if you wanted a nice painted look just remember it does not age as well of course. Now, he probably does not take as much care to keep it perfect being it is a purpose built car, but just some input. As far as we know, the company that bought it new to develop parts for it wrapped it as soon as they got it so that would have been brand new. Its a 2016 so I assume it has been wrapped since late 2015 sometime to give a gauge of the age.
#23
Allow me to refresh your memory "Even though I will never sell as I just got it but I am wondering if wrapping a car will generally devalue the car...". So, with that in mind, do you understand how this is conflicting? Why do you care about the value if you will never sell it? The value only matters to you, wise one.
#24
Not sure which one they used. The car was originally built by 949 racing and was wrapped right after they bought it new. My co-driver bought the car from them in 2018. I assume they used a quality material with the money they put into the rest of the car. So 5-7 years sounds about right from looking at this one. A lot of the car still looks pretty good (for a wrap, still does not look at good as paint of course) but the hood is showing more of its age.
#25
Allow me to refresh your memory "Even though I will never sell as I just got it but I am wondering if wrapping a car will generally devalue the car...". So, with that in mind, do you understand how this is conflicting? Why do you care about the value if you will never sell it? The value only matters to you, wise one.
The not being able to enjoy the car unless its spotless...I recognize the definition of his issue...I just don't understand the thought process.
BUT that inability to understand a "me" problem. And since I don't own his car...its actually not a problem for me at all. I'll just go on living my life.
My only point of objection was...wrap doesn't look as good as paint. So...I think that may bug him too.
And...its not like wrap just doesn't get dirty. So...a car wrapped in whatever colour is still gonna get dirty when he drives it...
Wrapping the car doesn't seem well thought out unless he's just looking for a visual change. But that wasn't mentioned as a goal.
Again...I'll just go on living my life. But it was worth at least trying to discuss, in the spirit of automotive brotherhood.
#26
I will state from my own experience that I actually never was overly fond of yellow cars. I bought my S2k because I knew the guy, it came along at the right time, etc. The color grew on me quickly and now I love it. I also get tons of compliments on it as well.
In terms of dirty ... maybe I am not the best to chime in there but mine tends to be covered in brake dust from the last track day for some amount of time. I wash it and it comes right back because of the pads I run. I still get tons of compliments on it. And many appreciate that the car looks as if it is used on a track vs just sitting around being washed and waxed, so no everyone cares about how clean the car is
Black is hard to keep looking clean. I have a dark blue car that looks dirty about a day after washing. I still love the color, but yeah, dark colors tend to show dust a lot.
But in any case, the wrap never looks as good as a painted car and I think tends to gather dust faster than a well waxed paint job. Or at least it seems that way. They are great for a car that is going to be autox'd or tracked a lot and already has nice paint though I guess, since it protects the paint during that type of use and you can always remove it later and have nice, barely touched paint.
In terms of dirty ... maybe I am not the best to chime in there but mine tends to be covered in brake dust from the last track day for some amount of time. I wash it and it comes right back because of the pads I run. I still get tons of compliments on it. And many appreciate that the car looks as if it is used on a track vs just sitting around being washed and waxed, so no everyone cares about how clean the car is
Black is hard to keep looking clean. I have a dark blue car that looks dirty about a day after washing. I still love the color, but yeah, dark colors tend to show dust a lot.
But in any case, the wrap never looks as good as a painted car and I think tends to gather dust faster than a well waxed paint job. Or at least it seems that way. They are great for a car that is going to be autox'd or tracked a lot and already has nice paint though I guess, since it protects the paint during that type of use and you can always remove it later and have nice, barely touched paint.
#27
I wouldn’t recommend a wrap. They’re always distinguishable from paint and can get pricey.
also always the risk of them peeling paint/clear upon removal.
Also, generally worth less too. I wouldn’t buy a vinyl wrapped car...though there are surely some who would in any s2000 facebook marketplace group.
You need to chill out or log off man.
also always the risk of them peeling paint/clear upon removal.
Also, generally worth less too. I wouldn’t buy a vinyl wrapped car...though there are surely some who would in any s2000 facebook marketplace group.
#28
Imma clean this up.
I love my black S2000 and plan on keeping it and I don't want to devalue it.
Anything that you do to the car, altering original body panels such as rolling fenders, adding mods, even driving it devalues it monetarily
I enjoy some mods to my S2000 but they are all reversible and I still have all the original parts should I need to restore it back to it's original state. However just the fact that I drive the car and turned screws on it has diminished it in value.
The most valued car in collector world is one that was bought and stayed in a garage all it's life under the original wrap from the factory.
The most valued vehicle in my world is one that I enjoy driving and puts a smile on my face every time I take it out.
I respect my S2000 for it's original beauty and form and function and I try not to deviate too far from that. And when I go to a collector car meet even though I'm in the spectator parking lot my car is judged for that and I always get compliments and inquiries as to it's availability for sale.
I love my black S2000 and plan on keeping it and I don't want to devalue it.
Anything that you do to the car, altering original body panels such as rolling fenders, adding mods, even driving it devalues it monetarily
I enjoy some mods to my S2000 but they are all reversible and I still have all the original parts should I need to restore it back to it's original state. However just the fact that I drive the car and turned screws on it has diminished it in value.
The most valued car in collector world is one that was bought and stayed in a garage all it's life under the original wrap from the factory.
The most valued vehicle in my world is one that I enjoy driving and puts a smile on my face every time I take it out.
I respect my S2000 for it's original beauty and form and function and I try not to deviate too far from that. And when I go to a collector car meet even though I'm in the spectator parking lot my car is judged for that and I always get compliments and inquiries as to it's availability for sale.
Last edited by Langelo DeMysterioso; 09-17-2020 at 04:01 AM.
#29
I know two guys on here that have in my opinion the ugliest S2000s there is. They've done numerous crazy DIY body alterations and engine swaps and they race these beasts. Their cars are worth $h^t at a collector car show but the smile on their faces when I see them pull up at meets is always priceless. I can only hope to get as much joy from my car as they get from theirs. So the value you get is where you place it and is only valuable if it makes you happy.
Last edited by Langelo DeMysterioso; 09-17-2020 at 04:11 AM.
#30
Ok, we're really getting off base here. Things aren't all or nothing.
You can prioritize the value of using and enjoying your car your way, and still give some consideration to its monetary market value. Its not like one completely precludes the other.
You can also even plan to keep your car forever, AND YET STILL GIVE CONSIDERATION to its market value.
I think that is what a smart person would do, but I wouldn't know. Plans can change. Life can force that on you, or maybe you just change your mind. A wise person prepares for such contingencies.
There can be a balance between enjoying your car your way, yet keeping an eye on what is happening to its monetary value.
I don't think its fair to criticize someone for that.
You can prioritize the value of using and enjoying your car your way, and still give some consideration to its monetary market value. Its not like one completely precludes the other.
You can also even plan to keep your car forever, AND YET STILL GIVE CONSIDERATION to its market value.
I think that is what a smart person would do, but I wouldn't know. Plans can change. Life can force that on you, or maybe you just change your mind. A wise person prepares for such contingencies.
There can be a balance between enjoying your car your way, yet keeping an eye on what is happening to its monetary value.
I don't think its fair to criticize someone for that.