JS2k.com

I don't sell projectors on S2ki...

I see no proof from you either. I don't need technical knowledge of projectors. I've shown proof of horrific pics of aftermarket projectors, and pics of some of the best OEM projectors.

okay, whatever you say buddy. A nice bright beam, wide angle, and colorful cutoff isn't ANY of the things people look for in a quality projector.

Which one of my pics had a civic? I assumed nothing. You assumed I looked at a guy's $85 Civic projector headlights. Since you're so knowledgeable, please tell me exactly which aftermarket projectors are so amazing, so I can upgrade my S2000.

Okay, then, how much do S2000 projectors cost brand new? Oh wait, you can't buy them brand new. You can only buy the entire headlight. Used vs. New? Not apples to apples.
You're right, TRS has been working on S2000 replica projectors (They've also made copies of other ones). Your point?
Do you see TRS making Depo or ChinaAwesome head light replicas?
So why do they make the projectors so horrible then?

If you can't see the difference between good projectors and bad projectors, as I've clearly displayed, you're either blind, stupid, or stubborn.

JS2k.com

I disagree wholeheartedly.
1. That's entirely too close to display the beam pattern... Since you sell retrofits, you should know how to take pics of projectors. Wait, no you don't.
2. Your driveway must be at an angle, as there is no light on the ground in front of the car.
3. The white balance is WAAAAY off. I see no blue or purple at all on the cutoff.
4. The picture is overexposed.
5. This pic wasn't shot in manual, so the camera is overcompensating for the bright light and making the beam pattern not crisp.
6. As shown above, this isn't a good picture to determine anything, other than you don't know how to take a picture.
7. That's not 4-6 feet. That's 3 feet at the most. I can SEE your car in the picture.

You also don't mention that your bulbs are 9 years old since you have a 2001. OOPS!

10 second exposure. Coming from someone who took THAT picture wants to dictate camera settings? Okay 'expert', you forgot Fstop? You also failed to mention ISO?
Do you also want me to take a picture of the beam pattern at 1 foot?

I didn't fabricate any bad pictures for anything. The fact is, S2000 headlights are amazing. In fact, I TELL my customers that their light output will be slightly diminished.
Direct quote from my website: HIDs in a 2011 Jetta. So Jordan, why would make something inferior? This is also 10 model years after the S2000.

Not enough evidence? Here's the oh so amazing beam pattern of your OEM halogen (non E code)MK4 Jetta.

Nuff said.

Newer TSX = newer bulb
Newer bulb = brighter bulb.
TSX projectors are very good, so I don't doubt that could happen against 9 year old bulbs.

Saki GT

Who in their right mind would take a 10 second exposure without a tripod?

suzuka-blue-s2k

-Jordan-

You've dug your own grave J2K, you have yet to answer my original question partaining to geometry. All you have provided is anecdotal evidense based on bro-science and biased opinion. I posted my shitty picture as an example of how you can, or can not take a picture to sway the opinions of others with a camera vs fact. You think S2K headlights are the shit, I think they're mediocre. Maybe you should drive more cars. For a board sponsor you shouldnt feed into such pointless argument, but that is what you happen when you plug your junk.

JS2k.com

Since you're so knowledgeable, answer your own question. I don't need to have any knowledge of geometry to know that S2000 projectors have great output.

How about we define anecdotal evidence?
Evidence in the form of an anecdote or hearsay is called anecdotal if there is doubt about its veracity; the evidence itself is considered untrustworthy.
In the court of law, this applies. In determining projector quality, no.
Anecdotal evidence in the form of pictures is just fine when comparing the light output of projectors.

No, you showed us your 'shitty' picture as evidence on how S2000 projectors aren't good.

Point? You've said you liked other projectors better, which I've provided pics of how bad their beam patterns are MK4 Jetta, Audi. With the exception of your vague statement about Acura projectors.

Again, point? This has nothing to do with the matter at hand.

I lend my bit of knowledge to the community. If there's misinformation, I'll challenge them on it.

Real mature, buddy.

You haven't addressed ANY of my comments that completely refute all of your arguments.

Saki GT

Look, Jordan has been on the board for 59 days, he's got to be an expert on S2000s by now, right?

suzuka-blue-s2k

Saki GT

The fact of the matter is, there isn't much aftermarket because the stock HIDs are so good - there's no need. This is different from say a POS Civic and its halogen light assemblies. No sense in carrying on with this OT back and forth.

JS2k is a good sponsor with good products; there no need to bad mouth each other in the threads over a pointless argument anyway. I say both of you just drop it and get on with enjoying the car and its stock light assemblies.

theblackpearl

You both sound like stubborn children fighting over whose pen writes prettier. So Jordan has his own opinion, so be it. As a sponsor, you've already done your part in explaining what you think of s2000 projectors, now you just sound like an immature sponsor who doesn't know a pointless argument...