Who here has experienced their rear end going wide (unintentionally)?
12-01-2003, 10:49 AM
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The S can get sideways pretty easy, but it doesn't bother me. I have had 2 Mustang Cobras, and a GT with 4.10 gears. Those get sideways a little easier than the S2000.
12-01-2003, 11:11 AM
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[puts his serious hat back on]
I think people are getting a bit carried away with dismissing all S2000 spins as driver idiocy. Yes, spins don't happen unprovoked, but some cars are more forgiving of abrupt / incorrect inputs than others, and the S2000 falls into the unforgiving end of the spectrum.
This is not just a function of the car's balance -- some cars are inherently more forgiving at the edge of the traction envelope, but the S2000 isn't one of them.
An extreme example of unfriendly behavior at the limit is the '90-'92 Toyota MR2; its suspension toed out under load, so you could be cornering in a perfectly stable state, then lift the throttle slightly and, woo!, around the tail came, with very little chance to catch it. The S2000 isn't as abrupt or hard to drive as that generation of MR2 is, but it's not nearly as catchable as, say, the BMW M3 or the Porsche Boxster.
Steve
I think people are getting a bit carried away with dismissing all S2000 spins as driver idiocy. Yes, spins don't happen unprovoked, but some cars are more forgiving of abrupt / incorrect inputs than others, and the S2000 falls into the unforgiving end of the spectrum.
This is not just a function of the car's balance -- some cars are inherently more forgiving at the edge of the traction envelope, but the S2000 isn't one of them.
An extreme example of unfriendly behavior at the limit is the '90-'92 Toyota MR2; its suspension toed out under load, so you could be cornering in a perfectly stable state, then lift the throttle slightly and, woo!, around the tail came, with very little chance to catch it. The S2000 isn't as abrupt or hard to drive as that generation of MR2 is, but it's not nearly as catchable as, say, the BMW M3 or the Porsche Boxster.Steve
12-01-2003, 11:12 AM
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Oh, and a distinction should also be made between power-induced oversteer (such as that suffered / enjoyed by the aforementioned Mustangs) and lift-throttle oversteer (which is what most people seem to be complaining about here). Any powerful RWD car will have the former.
Steve
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