S2000 Talk Discussions related to the S2000, its ownership and enthusiasm for it.

what happens if you mis-shift?

Thread Tools
 
Old 07-19-2007, 03:20 PM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
girlys2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default what happens if you mis-shift?

hello guys!

I have a question for you.

What part usually goes bad when you mis-shift and over-rev?

My car is in the dealer, because there was a problem with the engine.
I know I did NOT mis-shift, but I just want to find out what happens to the engine if I did.
Just in case the dealer tries not to fix my car under warranty saying 'you probably mis shited your car.'

Thanks!
Old 07-19-2007, 03:36 PM
  #2  

 
fenixv8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,136
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

valves get bent
Old 07-19-2007, 03:56 PM
  #3  
Registered User
 
andrewboro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Just had this happen to me, I didn't over-rev my engine, but the dealership was telling me I had. Do your research and know the difference between bent valves and burned valves. The only way to bend valves is by over-revving your engine. Basically your piston collides with your valve (bad) and bends it. If they run a compression check and find low compression it could be a bent valve, burned valve, piston ring etc. In my case it was most convenient for them to say low compression was caused by a bent valve because that would have been my fault and would not have been covered under warranty. If you suspect you may have a problem you should run a compression check and a leak down test. It also wouldn't hurt to remove the valve cover and look at valve clearances. If you over-revved your engine the ecu should log this event and the mechanic will be able to see an engine code telling him there was an over-rev. At 12000 RPM you are doing 200 rotations a second its likely that you will see damage to more than one valve on more than one cylinder. If you do a leak down test and find a problem with only one valve it is probably not a bent valve.
Old 07-19-2007, 04:08 PM
  #4  
Registered User
 
Enthralled's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 14,373
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

your engine is toast.



have a nice day.
Old 07-19-2007, 04:08 PM
  #5  
Registered User

 
madkimchi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: newcastle wa
Posts: 1,756
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

whinnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeee... KABOOOOOM!
Old 07-19-2007, 04:12 PM
  #6  
Registered User
 
Blue_S2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: West Los Angeles
Posts: 1,946
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I take it your are talking about a mis shift such as going from 5th to 2nd?
Old 07-19-2007, 04:23 PM
  #7  
Registered User
 
jdmgpw04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Los Angeles, Buena Park
Posts: 5,660
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

do you have an ap1 or ap2?
Old 07-19-2007, 04:41 PM
  #8  
Registered User

 
__redruM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: WV Pan Handle
Posts: 1,466
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I believe that you can crack the valve spring retainers as well. But that brings up an interesting point. If the valve spring retainer is defective and comes apart at a high RPM that is below the redline, you could get a single bent valve without an overrev. But bent Valves (plural) would almost have to be an overrev, or a broken timing chain

A broken or possibly a streched timing chain can also bend valves. But it's pretty rare. I worked a few years as a mechanic and only once saw a bad timing chain. Plenty of bad timing belts, but only one bad chain.

Also another question. Is there a way to clear an overrev from the ECU? Would pulling the fuse help?
Old 07-19-2007, 04:57 PM
  #9  
Registered User
 
RACER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 15,082
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default



Old 07-19-2007, 06:04 PM
  #10  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
girlys2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Blue_S2,Jul 19 2007, 04:12 PM
I take it your are talking about a mis shift such as going from 5th to 2nd?
something like that.
but I was thinking more like 5th to 4th not 2nd...


Quick Reply: what happens if you mis-shift?



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:25 AM.