VTEC in the S2000
06-20-2007, 06:50 PM
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I can slightly feel the VTEC and definitely can hear it when it kicks in, but it's just that I expected more out of VTEC based on my experiences with driving SI's, GSR's and Type R's. I guess I just feel a bit too spoiled after switching from a much faster car to the S2000.
06-20-2007, 08:14 PM
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Yeah, of all the stock Honda motors, the s2000s' motors actually have a kick. When I test drove my friends' GSRs, although the change was audible, I didn't feel the kick, but when I drove the S, I definitely noticed it, although over time the kick is less and less noticeable... especially when it's really hot out.
06-20-2007, 08:30 PM
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Anyone coming from the turbo world will probably be disappointed by the VTEC kick, or lack thereof. It is a fairly quick increase in acceleration rate but the transition is much smoother compared to most turbos (recent small fast spooling oem turbos being the exception) and is easy to miss if you are used to the after-burner like effect of a turbo with a noticable spool-up. While the turbo produces punch, vtec (at least in the S2000) produces more of a surge in power like rolling onto the throttle of a larger displacement n.a. engine.
Don't be fooled though. The S2K is a 5.5 second 0-60 car that will do high 13s at the track nearly stock, just as quick as many civics on aftermarket turbo kits with conservative tunes. If you doubt how effective VTEC is, try running the quarter mile shifting at around 7k RPM, then again shifting at redline.
If you have a good aftermarket muffler you will definitely HEAR the transition, which will make your brain think you can feel the difference. My old Si was the same way but didn't have nearly the power in the 5500-8000 rpm range (Si VTEC range) that the S2K has from 6500 to 9000.
I own a fairly poorly tuned Galant VR4 (same engine and awd drive train as a 1G Mitsu GSX) and it feels much faster than the s2k. But they both run low 14s for me. (Of course I can change gears twice in the S2k in the time it takes to get the balky DSM shifter up one cog.)
Don't be fooled though. The S2K is a 5.5 second 0-60 car that will do high 13s at the track nearly stock, just as quick as many civics on aftermarket turbo kits with conservative tunes. If you doubt how effective VTEC is, try running the quarter mile shifting at around 7k RPM, then again shifting at redline.
If you have a good aftermarket muffler you will definitely HEAR the transition, which will make your brain think you can feel the difference. My old Si was the same way but didn't have nearly the power in the 5500-8000 rpm range (Si VTEC range) that the S2K has from 6500 to 9000.
I own a fairly poorly tuned Galant VR4 (same engine and awd drive train as a 1G Mitsu GSX) and it feels much faster than the s2k. But they both run low 14s for me. (Of course I can change gears twice in the S2k in the time it takes to get the balky DSM shifter up one cog.)
06-21-2007, 05:51 AM
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My Vtec kicks in pretty hard in MY03..
Especially First n Second.. The car I owned before this was a full 2 seconds slower (240sx) So I definitly notice the change in pull and sound..
It's not like when my friend hits full boost in his turbo CRX, but its still pretty kool..
Especially First n Second.. The car I owned before this was a full 2 seconds slower (240sx) So I definitly notice the change in pull and sound..
It's not like when my friend hits full boost in his turbo CRX, but its still pretty kool..
06-21-2007, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by tof,Jun 20 2007, 08:30 PM
Anyone coming from the turbo world will probably be disappointed by the VTEC kick, or lack thereof. It is a fairly quick increase in acceleration rate but the transition is much smoother compared to most turbos (recent small fast spooling oem turbos being the exception) and is easy to miss if you are used to the after-burner like effect of a turbo with a noticable spool-up. While the turbo produces punch, vtec (at least in the S2000) produces more of a surge in power like rolling onto the throttle of a larger displacement n.a. engine.
Don't be fooled though. The S2K is a 5.5 second 0-60 car that will do high 13s at the track nearly stock, just as quick as many civics on aftermarket turbo kits with conservative tunes. If you doubt how effective VTEC is, try running the quarter mile shifting at around 7k RPM, then again shifting at redline.
If you have a good aftermarket muffler you will definitely HEAR the transition, which will make your brain think you can feel the difference. My old Si was the same way but didn't have nearly the power in the 5500-8000 rpm range (Si VTEC range) that the S2K has from 6500 to 9000.
I own a fairly poorly tuned Galant VR4 (same engine and awd drive train as a 1G Mitsu GSX) and it feels much faster than the s2k. But they both run low 14s for me. (Of course I can change gears twice in the S2k in the time it takes to get the balky DSM shifter up one cog.)
Don't be fooled though. The S2K is a 5.5 second 0-60 car that will do high 13s at the track nearly stock, just as quick as many civics on aftermarket turbo kits with conservative tunes. If you doubt how effective VTEC is, try running the quarter mile shifting at around 7k RPM, then again shifting at redline.
If you have a good aftermarket muffler you will definitely HEAR the transition, which will make your brain think you can feel the difference. My old Si was the same way but didn't have nearly the power in the 5500-8000 rpm range (Si VTEC range) that the S2K has from 6500 to 9000.
I own a fairly poorly tuned Galant VR4 (same engine and awd drive train as a 1G Mitsu GSX) and it feels much faster than the s2k. But they both run low 14s for me. (Of course I can change gears twice in the S2k in the time it takes to get the balky DSM shifter up one cog.)
06-21-2007, 06:33 AM
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I think it also depends on throttle position when you hit the 6k mark. If I'm just accelerating nominally I don't even feel it when the transition takes place, however if I mash the throttle at around 4k and hold it to the floor, I can really feel the transition.
