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Old 07-30-2001 | 02:03 PM
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Is is it true that the S2000 spesifications differ from one country to another to cope with local conditions like the weather and habitat. I was under the impression they are all the same.
I ordered mine in Holland to take with me to the United Arab Emirates and i've had this reply to an enquiry i made with the local Honda dealer in the UAE:
''Should you be considering to purchase a car in Holland, please bear in mind that that car will not have GCC specifications. In view of the harsh conditions here (ie. extreme heat, dust, etc) this is an important fact to consider. I would recommend that you wait until you arrive in the UAE to ensure that you purchase a car with the correct specifications for these conditions.''
Is this a sales pitch or should i take his advice, considering i'm saving a big shunk of money by buying the car here in Holland.
Old 07-30-2001 | 03:13 PM
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Yes there are different specs between countries but I doubt very much if they are significant enough to cause you any problems. Let's face it, a US spec vehicle has to be equally capable of spending 6 months of the year frozen solid in say Buffalo NY or 6 months of the year baking to death in New Mexico/Arizona. The spec is still the same regardless of location. You may want to consider things like a thicker oil or higher boiling point radiator fluid to suit local conditions but I don't see any other difficulties .

If I were you I'd buy wherever you can get the best deal.
Old 07-31-2001 | 02:00 AM
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I second that opinion, if you have no problems with bringing a personal import into the country of your desire then it shouldn't be much of an issue. Do remember one important factor though, you will not have any vehicle warranty in UAE even if the car is purchased brand new in Holland because the Honda warranty issued only covers nationwide, not internationally anywhere else. This applies to all models and types of Honda definitely.

Old 07-31-2001 | 02:22 AM
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Hey-

I'm not sure about Honda S2000s but...

Nissan UK fits the UK Spec. Skyline GT-R with transmission and center differential coolers. Those are definitely not Japan Spec. from the factory. They also refit the OEM seats with leather in the UK. Honda also have a fairly well known difference with the Integra Type R motors depending on the country of sale- eg. Japan Spec. is 11.1:1 compression vs. US Spec. 10.6:1 CR (through piston differences).

That means that yes, there are differences, although I have no idea what Honda UAE specifies for the S2000.
Old 07-31-2001 | 03:12 AM
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Another example of spec differences in the UK compared to other countries (and why sometimes we seem to pay a lot more) is specification, we in the UK love our goodies, a prime example in the UK is the Audi TT, ours come as standard with the HID, whereas on the continent you have to specify them, differences in S2000 spec's are probably cosmetic, do you in Dubai say get: Full leather, air-con, locking nuts,Ti alloy Gearknob, headlamp washers, wind deflector, mats etc, as std like in the UK?

Maybe in Dubai there is a harder tyre specified, Hi-Temp thermostat??? Larger air-con ?? (never cold over there but often 40 DegC +!!!),.
What I would say is stick to 3750 miles harsh service intervals!
Old 07-31-2001 | 03:37 AM
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Sounds like a sales pitch to me. Ask him what the GCC spec covers exactly.

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Old 07-31-2001 | 01:13 PM
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Welcome again S2000NL on this forum.

Yep, the S2000 is different from continent to continent (better "market"). In Europe Honda gives us a free cassette-player (in USA a CD-player/radio), headlamp washers and a rear diffuser with fog light. Hopefully the traffic regulations in Europe differ from that in the USA as we luckily have clear blinking lights next to the headlamps, the Amis do want them desparately.

If this car can survive in Texas or Australia, then your Arab salesman is telling you BS.

You do not have to pay the 25% BPM tax additional if you export this dutch car?

btw: do you still have parts over from your crashed S, eg the CD-changer ?
Old 07-31-2001 | 02:34 PM
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There may be differences.

To my knowledge there are 3 different engine specs for the S2000 depending on geography: F20C, F20C2 & F20C1.

There are also lots of local specifications (self levelling headlights, rear fog light, upholstery, color of blinkers, and so on) depending on marketing and local traffic regulation.

He is probably pushing it, but you should research it properly to make sure...
Old 07-31-2001 | 03:18 PM
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S2000NL:

I can imagine there are different specs for the cars over there. The US manufacturers with which I work have also a GCC package for their cars.

For large production volume cars, it is more likely, but for small production numbers, I can imagine that the setup is more generic.

Things to consider are:

- Different fuel specs -> Impact on emissions control (do they even have catalytic converters on their cars over there? I believe they still have leaded fuel even!)
- Dust -> Different intake system (filters etc.)
- Fuel system -> different temperatures, pressures, withstanding of special fuel?
- Engine controller calibration -> Different knock limits etc?

Maybe you can ask how they can convert your Dutch car with the most important differences. Try to get more detailled information about these differences.

Groetjes,


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