steering feel vs. Cayman
05-03-2009, 01:25 PM
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For anyone interested in finding this out for themselves, Porsche is currently offering free test drives in the Cayman, base 911, and Boxter. The promo is called "First Mile" I believe. Sign up is pretty simple: http://www.porschedealer.com/firstmile20/. Worth checking out imo.
05-05-2009, 02:55 PM
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I guess this is one of the joys of coming from a mazda3. It is night and day when I go from one to the other. THe mazda3 really REALLY sucs, so the S2k is like heaven
I imagine the price difference shows with the feedback from the cayman as well.
in other words- I would imagine the cayman is amazing, but that is one of the reasons why it cost more in the first place.
I imagine the price difference shows with the feedback from the cayman as well.
in other words- I would imagine the cayman is amazing, but that is one of the reasons why it cost more in the first place.
05-05-2009, 10:22 PM
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Does the numbness go away if you disconnect the EPS?
Same deal for NSX. Earlier non-power assist steering had excellent feedback. Honda went to EPS in 1995 for all models. The feel became numb...not not nearly as numb as the S2000.
Same deal for NSX. Earlier non-power assist steering had excellent feedback. Honda went to EPS in 1995 for all models. The feel became numb...not not nearly as numb as the S2000.
05-06-2009, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Penforhire,May 1 2009, 09:54 AM
Steering feel? LOL! As good a sports car as the S2k is it has very little feel. I am certain it is the EPS system's fault. True, many other cars are worse (IS350 comes to mind). But nobody can brag about S2K steering feel.
05-06-2009, 05:54 PM
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The S2000 has great steering feel to me. Then again, I have driven Honda products for 20 years, including six Hondas and Acuras in the last nine years, and am used to the steering feel.
There's worse.....have you driven Toyota products? Those define "numb steering". Can't stand it.
There's worse.....have you driven Toyota products? Those define "numb steering". Can't stand it.
05-09-2009, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Nickamsweet,May 3 2009, 05:18 AM
Just off a website talking about the Cayman.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/porsche-cayman-s.html
"A modified valve control map for the steering system serves to reduce steering forces, giving the Cayman even more agile steering behaviour."
Would there be no way in changing the steering rack for a similar cayman system? Or too much money etc?
http://www.leftlanenews.com/porsche-cayman-s.html
"A modified valve control map for the steering system serves to reduce steering forces, giving the Cayman even more agile steering behaviour."
Would there be no way in changing the steering rack for a similar cayman system? Or too much money etc?
Not good news if you ask me.
Even my 2000 Boxster S had better steering feel than my 2006 Boxster S.
As cars get newer and redesigned their steering systems get more numb, assisted and boring all in the name of ''driver comfort'' and being as disconnected from the road as possible.
05-09-2009, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by zachismisitok,May 5 2009, 02:55 PM
I guess this is one of the joys of coming from a mazda3. It is night and day when I go from one to the other. THe mazda3 really REALLY sucs, so the S2k is like heaven
I imagine the price difference shows with the feedback from the cayman as well.
in other words- I would imagine the cayman is amazing, but that is one of the reasons why it cost more in the first place.
I imagine the price difference shows with the feedback from the cayman as well.
in other words- I would imagine the cayman is amazing, but that is one of the reasons why it cost more in the first place.
05-09-2009, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Nippon,May 1 2009, 06:14 AM
The way I see it is, unless its something that can be put down in some form of data, numerical, or otherwise, It almost seems to be a placibo effect. Or subjective at best. I just think the word "feel" is too broad a definition to use when comparing steering. Unless of course its more drastic like comparing a yacht to an F1 car.
I do see the logic in it though. But the feel we're all refering to probably correlates to other things such as chassis rigidity, suspension tuning, center of gravity, balance, etc, and not so much that this steering wheel or column gives more "feel" than the other.
Saki, the Pro's comment earlier wasn't made to warrant the need to provide reference to, In other words, I cant give any names because most of these guys were just SCCA guys I met at Road Atlanta, just that people I considered pro's said other wise.
Toriaizu, esu nissen no koto suki desu
I do see the logic in it though. But the feel we're all refering to probably correlates to other things such as chassis rigidity, suspension tuning, center of gravity, balance, etc, and not so much that this steering wheel or column gives more "feel" than the other.
Saki, the Pro's comment earlier wasn't made to warrant the need to provide reference to, In other words, I cant give any names because most of these guys were just SCCA guys I met at Road Atlanta, just that people I considered pro's said other wise.
Toriaizu, esu nissen no koto suki desu
the S is by no means a dog in the steering feel dept. its not like comparing an accord vs the cayman, the S is still a sports car after all...
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