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Old 02-23-2008 | 04:45 PM
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Perhaps I am just an idiot and this is the dumbest question of all time, but I see these terms thrown around constantly on car forums.
"I just put in a kick-azz Stage 3 clutch!" and "My killer Stage 4 package Neon will blow you away!", "This Awesome Stage 2 suspension rocks on the curves!"
What does it REALLY mean? Is there some international standard that applies to this asinine and non-descriptive terminology? Does the SAE have some guidelines delineating the usage of these phrases? Is it pure marketing fluff?
Or is everyone who spouts off like this a poseur ricer punk?

If you have some solid information I'd really like to hear it, thanks!
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Old 02-23-2008 | 04:50 PM
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My S2000 is currently at stage 7 with the kick-arse Weapon R Supercharging Intake.
Old 02-23-2008 | 04:56 PM
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Most brands have stages of a certain upgrade.. It's usually with Turbos.. The higher the stage the bigger the turbo and intercooler - typically.

With the SRT4's thats Mopar's way of describing turbo upgrades for it. Higher the stage = more boost, injectors etc..

Clutches also have it because each stage usually dictates the hp rating the clutch is good for..
Old 02-23-2008 | 05:13 PM
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And despite all that, the use of "stage" based upgrades is pure marketing fluff, because it implies a linear progression when there just isn't one. A "Stage 3" clutch isn't necessarily an upgrade from a "Stage 2" clutch since you really would only need a stage three clutch if your car was overpowering the holding abilities of the "Stage 2" setup.

A lot of times i've also seen companies offer different "stages" of a certain type of equipment (turbos and superchargers quite often) but anything lower than the second or third stage is really just an incomplete setup.

In general i find the whole "Stage" based upgrade thing to be designed to capitalize on the consumer's lack of knowledge rather than offer a realistic solution for their needs.
Old 02-23-2008 | 05:14 PM
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very well put, thats prety much how it goes and BTW as much as I hate to admit it my friend has an SRT-4 that is stage 4 and it is just a straight line beast! No lie he takes new corvettes with ease (yet to see him go against a ZO6). But the funny part is he actually rolls with an all viper crew now that we met in VA Beach, they call him mini viper. i know everyone here seems to hate these cars but they are good for straight line power, sorry i know this was a bit OT but oh well..
Old 02-23-2008 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by S2K_1987,Feb 23 2008, 06:14 PM
very well put, thats prety much how it goes and BTW as much as I hate to admit it my friend has an SRT-4 that is stage 4 and it is just a straight line beast! No lie he takes new corvettes with ease (yet to see him go against a ZO6). But the funny part is he actually rolls with an all viper crew now that we met in VA Beach, they call him mini viper. i know everyone here seems to hate these cars but they are good for straight line power, sorry i know this was a bit OT but oh well..
Yeah, those SRT-4s can be crazy fast w/ some mods.

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Old 02-23-2008 | 09:31 PM
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i've never heard any official designation for "stage X" with respect to gains over stock or any other standard measure. has anyone?
Old 02-23-2008 | 09:38 PM
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stage 12 here now that i painted my stock emblems... will most likely be entering stage 13 tomorrow.
Old 02-24-2008 | 12:23 AM
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It's like guitar amps on "11", everything is relative.
Old 02-24-2008 | 12:27 AM
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wow!! some of you guys are pretty far up on the stages...I just want to get to stage two.


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