That was my point.

 

Given a defining mistake, a crash could very well be inevitible.
That seems so obvious that I give an example only with great reluctance:

Mistake = encountering a large, unexpected patch of ice, while carrying enough speed to make a crash unavoidable.

LOL, maybe that's a blunder rather than a mistake. j/k

 

Guys,

I would just like to thank you for explaining this stuff, because being a teenage driver(I'm only 17 ), I am fairly unexperienced as much as I would not like to admit it. This thread has perhaps been the most imformative one I have seen in a while.

I feel that Driver's Ed. should cover some if not all of this stuff. When I suffered through my driving lessons and classes and test, never once was I questioned about what should I do in a spin or any other situation when the driver would lose control of the car. This I feel is a signifcant problem which needs to be corrected.

Do you guy's have an recommendations for driving schools to experience these types of situations first hand?

I have been looking into Skip Barber, but I'm not entirely sure...?

Keep in mind that I live in Massachusets.

Thanks again for this very useful insight.

Frank

And to avoid the flames, yes I do have an S2000. But I am not an irrational driver even though I am unexperienced and rather young. And I do appreciate this car greatly and only have the upmost respect for it while driving it. I have noticed the increase of kids my age in the board and their lack of judgement around the car and the forum. And this is something that I do not do, so please no need for rash judgements.

 

^^^ local autoX...best training ever & cheap

 

Don't hold your breath. Driver's Ed is set up to teach you how to parallel park, not how to take a late apex corner.

You can try the car clubs (BMWCCA, PCA, etc.) although some of them have banned convertibles. Or whatever local track is closest to you probably has a school. Lime Rock? Watkins Glen? New Hampshire?

And yeah, the autocross clubs teach good schools too.

Skippy is great, although probably more expensive than some of the other options.

Some schools may have insurance restrictions against people under 18.

 

Disagreed. A mistake can (but not always obviously) lead to a crash. Every time you haven't crashed after making a mistake (road or track) consider yourself lucky as opposed to gifted or "expert". And if you have never made a mistake, then more power to you.

 

Yes, but apparently we don't give a rat's .... about word definitions, so carry on

 

Biggest bang for the buck is autocrossing and (especially) Evolution Schools.
Fun too.

Contact the SCCA Region in your area for more information.

 

Hahahaha, I ususally do.

 

[QUOTE=s2k08,Jan 5 2008, 01:50 PM]Do you guy's have an recommendations for driving schools to experience these types of situations first hand?

I have been looking into Skip Barber, but I'm not entirely sure...?

Keep in mind that I live in Massachusets.