Skipping gears while downshifting
#13
Originally Posted by Vanishing Point,Nov 29 2007, 01:54 PM
Don't worry about it, it keeps the transmission/engine shops in business.
See this thread for more info on upshift/downshift skipping and a good read.
Originally Posted by cthree
Skipping gears is fine, the transmission neither knows nor cares what gear you were in. If you notice, you ALWAYS shift through neutral (1-N-2-N-3...). So in fact there is no such thing as skipping gears. It's not a sequential shifter.
Welcome to S2ki btw.
#16
ok i know that its off topic and im not trying to hijack but why is skipping gears while upshifting bad. like i will go from 1st to 2nd to 3rd and at that time im at 65~70 and then ill just put it in 6th....why is this bad exactly?
#17
We have seen photos and a notice from Honda indicating that it beats up the dogs in the transmission. It's also harder on the synchros.
Like if you go from 6th. to 4th., the 4th. gear synchros have to do the work of both the 5th. and 4th. gear synchros, and they're not designed for that purpose. If you over power the lock out rings even slightly, there are little bits in the transmission that get banged up, a little or a lot, depending on how badly you shifted. Over time the transmission will have problems as a result.
To go from sixth to fourth, clutch in, engage fifth but don't let the clutch out, and then engage fourth and let the clutch out. That way each of the synchros gets to do it's share of the work. There are alternative ways to take the load off the synchros, but they all depend somewhat on being able to feel what the transmission is doing (through the shifter) so just learn the techniques without skipping gears, and then when you do want to skip a gear, do it in a way that won't make life hard for your gearbox.
You may find that you're just like iKMTi, and can get into the gear you want to be in faster if you *don't* skip gears.
Like if you go from 6th. to 4th., the 4th. gear synchros have to do the work of both the 5th. and 4th. gear synchros, and they're not designed for that purpose. If you over power the lock out rings even slightly, there are little bits in the transmission that get banged up, a little or a lot, depending on how badly you shifted. Over time the transmission will have problems as a result.
To go from sixth to fourth, clutch in, engage fifth but don't let the clutch out, and then engage fourth and let the clutch out. That way each of the synchros gets to do it's share of the work. There are alternative ways to take the load off the synchros, but they all depend somewhat on being able to feel what the transmission is doing (through the shifter) so just learn the techniques without skipping gears, and then when you do want to skip a gear, do it in a way that won't make life hard for your gearbox.
You may find that you're just like iKMTi, and can get into the gear you want to be in faster if you *don't* skip gears.
#18
I got that memo forom Honda as well. funny how in some american cars you have to skip upshift (the corvette is on I believe) but in a honda this damages the tranny? I think it is a bunch of BS personally.
Hell, I'm up and down skipping all over the place with every car I've owned with no problems. If you got the revs left, and you rev match, your fine.
Memorize the VTEC point and reline speeds in your middle 2-3-4 gears and you'll be well on your way to success
Hell, I'm up and down skipping all over the place with every car I've owned with no problems. If you got the revs left, and you rev match, your fine.
Memorize the VTEC point and reline speeds in your middle 2-3-4 gears and you'll be well on your way to success