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Old 07-24-2004 | 01:28 AM
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He doesn't say 180, he says 140!
Old 07-24-2004 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MattG,Jul 24 2004, 12:29 AM
Yeah I espescially like where he says he maxes out at 180 therefore needs NOS.

(sorry getting a little off topic there)
He doesn't say 180, he says 140!
Old 07-24-2004 | 02:30 AM
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Why would rev-matching (heel-toeing) damage or wear more than granny shifting? I think its the other way around if done properly. Less clutch friction, less tranny stress and less diff stress.

I dunno where u got the idea..
Old 07-24-2004 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Hyper-X,Jul 24 2004, 02:56 AM
Don't even concern yourself with double clutching if you can't H&T. The reasoning behind double clutching was that older cars didn't have syncromesh gears to help them slide into each gear.
OK - BUT as someone else pointed out - when you want to get into first on a first gear corner - a double clutch will make sure you don't grind (at least on this tranny in this car). I double-clutch as opposed to rev match whenever I am driving aggressively - it does make sure the synchros don't have as much work to do - and eliminates any grinding at all - but most importantly - the whole point of double clutching when not using heel and toe (my feet are too big to H&T in the S) is to maintain current weight loading during cornering. If you don't double clutch or rev-match going into a corner where you need to downshift for power and power through the whole corner you run the risk of upsetting the balance of the car and losing the rear. So - even though I don't H&T in this car at all - double clutching definitely still has its place.

a search will bring up all sorts of opinions on this
Old 07-24-2004 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by forsaken,Jul 24 2004, 05:30 AM
Why would rev-matching (heel-toeing) damage or wear more than granny shifting? I think its the other way around if done properly. Less clutch friction, less tranny stress and less diff stress.

I dunno where u got the idea..
exactly - you are putting less stress on any driveline component during downshifts although you are clutching twice as much - so maybe you are accellerating the throw-out bearing wear...
Old 07-24-2004 | 08:52 AM
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I've typed my definitions before.

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Old 07-24-2004 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by thereisnospoon,Jul 24 2004, 05:57 AM
exactly - you are putting less stress on any driveline component during downshifts although you are clutching twice as much - so maybe you are accellerating the throw-out bearing wear...
i agree with you guys. Thats how i drive my S. Ive learned to drive stick on my dads late 70's targa. he doesn't let anybody drive that car. he told me once that i drive it smoother than he does. i will admit i get caught up in the moment sometimes and don't shift in my S as smooth as possible but i do my best. I have
noticed that sometimes double-clutching provides the smoothest transition into gear. the car is ALIVE!!!!


i couldn't imagine ever having to rev match on an upshift. i believe alot of the shifting is intuitive by listening and feeling the transmission and clutch respectively.
I wanted to get the terminology straight so that i can talk about my driving.


Does holding the clutch down wear it out alot? I guess it does. I probably could
find the answer to this one. For example if your at a stop light and holding the clutch in. Its probably better to put my foot on the restpad and when the light turns green put in the clutch and give it gas and go. If im really lazy at a light I will pull the e-brake and let my feet rest. i have been catching myself at stop lights lately with the clutch pushed all the way in. every time i pull my foot off and put it on the rest pad. Its a bad habit right?
Old 07-24-2004 | 01:31 PM
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i always stop with clutch engaged dunno the awnser would like to find out aswell
Old 07-24-2004 | 03:52 PM
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IIRC, keeping the clutch engaged (i.e. depressed) wears out the throwout bearing. If you're waiting at a long light, it's best to put the car in neutral instead of standing on the clutch the whole time.
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