[QUOTE=Blue_S2,Jun 13 2005, 09:32 PM] Couldn't you use tamper proof screws that are the same size? They are widely used in the video security industry.

 

I ordered from Kokodan 4 a set of seat locks. He shipped it right away and today, I've switched out the old bolts with the new seat lock bolts. They are as described by Kokodan 4. Great communication and excellent service by Kokodan 4. Thanks! Now, I have a peace of mind when I park my car in unsecured places. They will have to work a bit harder to steal my seats.

 

Installed mine yesterday - looks great.

 

does anyone know how much the sticker cost? If both the lock and the sticker can be had for $65 then I'd consider. W/o the sticker, someone will just break in and f*($ up the seats.

 

Thanks, Honda 367 and fastD!

Glad you like the Locks.


krayzazn- How about $66?

The Seat Locks are $61 and the Warning stickers are $5. There will be a group buy soon- I'm placing the order this week.


Here's a thread with info:

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...T&f=1&t=302695

-Pete

 

How about replacing the factory installed bolts with some torx bolts of the right size? Using some superglue to install the bolts would add extra safety if desired. It's highly unlikely that a thief would be carring a torq driver on his heist. This solution would be less than $10 for the whole install.



I'm not sure what size bolt to use... I'm gona take one from my car to Automotive Fasteners and have them figure this out. I'll let you know how this works out.

 

[QUOTE=jimcarson,Jul 10 2005, 01:37 PM]How about replacing the factory installed bolts with some torx bolts of the right size?

 

To call this "Getto Solution", simply because it's not your overpriced solution is unfair.

1) Bolts are rated by strength, replacing one bolt with another of equal strength does not reduce the safety of the vehicle.

2) Thieves are lazy and not very inventive. If they were, they'd have jobs and not be stealing for their lively hood. Any security device, including yours is only designed to slow them down or deter them with the extra effort. The extra effort also adds to the risk of being caught, and thiefs do not want to be caught.

3) While Torx drivers are readily available, the are not the ordinary pocket item of a thief. The adjustable wrench is.

4) From the looks of it, your design would be able to be removed with a pair of lock pliers... a much more common tool than a torx wrench.

My point is this. You are selling a solution to this community and trying to make a quick buck off of everyone's concern to protect themselves. I am simply stating that there is a cheaper alternative that is just as safe and reliable as yours. Obviously you disagree, but it's unfair to call an alternative a "Getto Solution", simply because it will cut into your profits.

 

I side with Kodokan 4, voting with wallet by recently sending him $61.

Calling other options a "Ghetto Solution" could be considered "smart marketing"

Certainly very mild compared to the maniacal gibberish typically spouted at new car dealerships, to cite just one example.

 

I've seen many ghetto solutions, but as I already posted, your solution is one that I was initially considering. It's not really ghetto in the application, but it's just a big step backwards, considering that the alternative is designed, manufactured, and tested specifically for our needs, by the largest manufacturer of security bolts in the world. I have seen several ridiculous solutions that would be more appropriately termed "ghetto".

The Seat Locks are super hardened, and the heads are low-profile and intentionally tapered 15 degrees, so that gripping-type tools will slip off. There is even a thread on S2KI where one of our owners did his own test, and was unable to remove them. They are certainly not theft-proof, but they are a high-quality theft deterrant.

It's unfair to call my solution "overpriced". McGard doesn't normally manufacture or market security bolts in the small numbers that we order. They are making an exception for us, and the cost of producing new Seat Locks and Keys in batches of only 100 to 150 is very expensive. I believe it's the most exclusive product they've ever produced!

-Pete