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Old 07-23-2005 | 08:24 PM
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Having driven both an Elise and an S2000, I think that you'll be very happy with the S2000.

With a coupe of caveats...I think the Elise is safer for a relatively inexperienced driver (read: not having race training) to drive in a spirited manner on regular roads. The handling on the Elise is much more neutral than the S2000. If you overcook a corner, it kinda saves you...the S2000 will bite back.

The Elise driver drove my car and said he enjoyed the (1) quicker steering and (2) ability to use the oversteer to rotate the car around corners. The S is also more liveable for everyday driving.

Good luck!

p.s. Life is short. Enjoy the S2000 now. Drive the Solstice when it comes and then make up your mind to either (1) sell the S and buy a Solstice or (2) Keep the S2000.
Old 07-23-2005 | 08:24 PM
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connorsqp:

There was that time, I think in 1985, that Honda "came of age" and entered the true competitive automotive world by beating it! It was a sudden event, as I recall, and nobody expected it. Let's not deny Pontiac their chance, before we even test drive their car.

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Old 07-23-2005 | 09:35 PM
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my vote based on looks alone, I did a search for pics of the Pontiac and my vote is uuuuuuugly. I cannot say that enough, is there room to duck so the hot girls wont see me in it? (That was a joke, no insult intended)
S2K = ssssssssssweet , hey baby look at me
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Old 07-23-2005 | 09:36 PM
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Pontiac = garbage.... simple enough
Old 07-23-2005 | 09:48 PM
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Just shaking my head...
Old 07-23-2005 | 10:24 PM
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Hey, look! All the financial and business info I can obtain predicts that Pontiac will soon join Oldsmobile in being a "dead" brand". I personally view the Solstice as being "Pontiac's last shot." And that is why it is interesting to me. I am old enough to recall the '85 Accord as being "Honda's last shot." And look what happened. I still see my old '86 Civic running around town from time to time. Am I in the market for a Solstice to trade my s2k on? Well, no! Am I interested, from an investors point of view as to whether Pontiac can save itself? Well, yes. GM has some bonds out there to invest in that are paying an effective rate of about 9%, which is a very high rate these days --- unless the company goes totally broke. The investment value of GM depends on its products which are not doing well right now. A product like the Solstice, if successful, might just turn GM around --- and show it the way for the future. Or, if the Solstice is a "dog", seal its death.

If you don't like the look of the Solstice, fine. Many, however, do. And, lest we forget, the base Solstice that will be introduced has more torque than the s2k, and much more than the new Miata (and Mazda has a bad habit about lying about hp and torque figures on its models, pre-introduction.)

From what I can tell about the Solstice, pre-introduction, it will not really be a competitor for the s2k. Just doesn't have the "go." But for $10K less. there may be a market for it if it is decent ---- particularly competing against the under-torqued Miata.

So let's not judge it until we drive it. I doubt that it will make us want to trade in our s2ks in droves, but it might tell us investors whether there is any life left in GM or not. And that's the question.

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Old 07-23-2005 | 11:36 PM
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I think as sports car enthusiasts we should be glad that Pontiac is coming out with another convertible.

I know that GM / Pontiac generally are not the best quality / best design. However, the Solstice could prove us wrong.

That said, however, 170 HP vs 240 HP (Solstice / S2K) is a huge difference. I think the choice should be fairly easy for shoppers to differentiate between the two cars.
Old 07-24-2005 | 12:25 AM
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Ah, yes, but the base Solstice is said to cost only $20K ( if the dealers don't gouge it up.) So it might be worth it, and create more sports car interest. But, it could be a "dog." We'll just have to wait and see. Can't tel till we drive it.

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Old 07-24-2005 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by gameson,Jul 22 2005, 09:08 PM
if i can wait, i'll wait and test drive, but i dunno how pontiac dealerships will act on that coz i remember when s2000 first came out, you can't test drive until you are buying the car.
Fine, then say "I'm buying, now let me drive it." After you drive, if you don't like it, say "Oh, I don't like it anymore. BYE!" And don't let them run a credit check.
Old 07-24-2005 | 07:54 AM
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Honda Build Quality > GM Build Quality

I think that answers it right there.


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