The December 2000 MOTOR Mag hays the folowing figures for their respective cars :

Holden VX Commodore SS -

225Kw, 460Nm Torque, Six speed manual,

0-10 .42
0-20 .94
0-30 1.46
0-40 1.94
0-50 2.39
0-60 2.98
0-70 3.56
0-80 4.72
0-90 5.42
0-100 6.34 ( S2k 6.63 )

this was a comparison against ford XR8 - 0-100 - 7.36, so the stook should have pretty much no trouble axing the ford, especially when the corners come up

anyway, back on track .....

the stook in wheels mag i think recorded a 6.2 0-100, somebody might correct me on that.

Also in CAR Magazine the stook runs 5.7secs 0-60 for you yanks.

I remember been with my dad in our stook and cruising with a clubsport R8 nearby, (in australia) and the lanes were merging from 2 into one and before that we were mucking around with the R8, tesing him,.....but the thing is we hit 6k and went past him and 2 cars in front of him ( from behind) and you should have seen his face!


David "I 'think' it's auto as from what I can work out the speed increments (ie. gearchanges) - that's what it is. Though, the article is a bit confusing ... in one place they say 'auto' in another 'manual'. " do you know what issue that was? in all my motor mags, they haven't recorded a time for the R8

Does anyone know how well the stook handles against an R8? or standard clubsport? ie. Skidpad? etc.

I remember reading somewhere that the stang was been accepted well in australia, i'm pretty sure its not the 'US' cobra though. the reviewer also said the chassis flexed and twisted.

 

Hi Aus2k,
Comparing the R8 and S2000 in terms of handling is not doing it justice. The R8 does handle well and has a lot of grip ... for a 1705kg car. No matter what, it's a big heavy car. It's like comparing M5 to a Ferrari F360 in terms of handling - night and day between them. The R8 and S2000 are very comparable in straight line, but if you put them on the track then the S2000 will be lapping way ahead of it.

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"I 'think' it's auto as from what I can work out the speed increments (ie. gearchanges) - that's what it is. Though, the article is a bit confusing ... in one place they say 'auto' in another 'manual'. " do you know what issue that was? in all my motor mags, they haven't recorded a time for the R8
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This article is in the March issue of Motor and the figures are directly from the article.

ps. Several German magazines managed 5.8, 5.9 and 6.2 secs for the 0-100km/h runs. Locally though, I'm still waiting ... 6.4 is the quickers by Motor/Wheels (can't remember which one), but Fast Fours managed 6.2. Personly I managed 6.15 but 2kturkey managed 5.85. I think it depends on how good your clutch is and what the weather conditions are ... here in Australia it's very possible to get a 'bad' day for the S2000 as it's very sensitive to air quality.

 

"Several German magazines managed 5.8, 5.9 and 6.2 secs for the 0-100km/h runs"- DavidM

0-100km/h is 0-62mph so there is 2mph diffence between our standards.

L believe the SS Commodore is quicker than the Clubsport now? anyone have this on paper?

 

0-100km/h is actually more like 62.5mph (not trying to be pedantic :-) That 'extra' 2.5mph is roughly equal to 0.4secs. I have a US magazine that tested some cars (like Boxster2.5) and had the times in both mph and kmh. It was 7.1secs for the 0-60mph and 7.5 for the 0-100km/h.

Also, where do you get that SS is quicker than Clubsport? It is not, it's slower. These are the numbers that Motor clocked only 2 months ago and with an auto (which is quicker in the 0-100km/h and 400m runs):
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0-10km/h = 0.49 secs
0-20km/h = 1.03
0-30km/h = 1.49
0-40km/h = 1.92
0-50km/h = 2.35
0-60km/h = 2.81
0-70km/h = 3.62
0-80km/h = 4.36
0-90km/h = 5.06
0-100km/h =6.06
0-110km/h =6.96
0-120km/h =8.05
0-130km/h =8.91
0-140km/h =10.64
0-150km/h =11.97
0-160km/h =13.58

0-400m = 14.13 @ 164.3km/h
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OK, that car was the R8 but they both have the same engine and R8 is actually a bit heavier than just a Clubsport (though, R8 brakes and handles better). There's no SS that can do that kind of times ... SS is quick, but by the 400m mark it will be good 10km/h slower than the Clubsport.

Clubsport not only has more power, but also shorter gearing than the SS.

 

Great Post David M, i have raced my friends 185kw ss , and kicked its ass, well done

 

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....185kw ss ...
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185kW SS? SS has 225kW now and had 220kW for the last few years (that is since the introduction of the 5.7L V8). Before that the 5.0L V8 had about 165kW but the Cubsport had 185kW then.

So, just wonderig, was this a new SS (in which case it had 220kW+) or was it the older 5.0L V8 which would have only 165kW. Or was it the older 5.0L Clubsport with 185kW?

Current local V8's are very quick - new XR8, SS (or any 5.7L V8 Commodore) are all effortlessly fast. S2000 is quicker but only if you launch it right.

 

Let's not go racing any GTS' now........

 

It was the older v8 5.0 L.... it probably is a Clubsport , he just bought it second hand a few weeks ago and raves how it has 185kw beast

 

Come on Bernie, where's the fun :-) ... or is it, 'if it's not an M5 it's not worth it kind of thing' :-)

OK Goul, I though that's what it probably was. Those are not that fast - MR2 (not the Spyder) is actually a a fraction quicker than that. I was at Sandown when there as one like that and we were very even down the straight. Though, 'from the lights' I raced at least 6 of those and won every single time (in the MR2). That is up to 160kph or so. Still wasn't much in it, we're talking about no more than 2 car lenghts. And the S2000 totally slaughters the MR2 in the straigh line.

 

Not trying to be cynical but I'm not a big fan of Holden cars, I'm sick of seeing them like stockpiles and stockpiles of them on the roads anywhere in Australia. Sometimes I can count at one traffic light on a busy traffic jam and I hit counts of up to 100 or so of Commodores and stuff. I don't know why Australians need so high powered cars that has high fuel consumption as well when the majority of them drive like turtles day in and out.

"Holden Racing Team 01 Shell V8 SuperCars Series Drivers" - Now, that's what I call some decent Holden performance that puts HSV quality to the public.

Then again, I do seriously respect the high grunt cars Holden produces like the HSV versions are indeed very impressive like the GTS and the upcoming Monaro edition for people who can seriously afford performance cars. And they're rare on the roads as well compared. Those type of cars usually carry gentlemen and respectable drivers that acknowledge your presence when you drive a sports car as well compared to those normal Commodores on the roads who are majority low intelletual rednecks who pisses the hella outta me everyday!

"The Commodore SS is king of the concrete jungle." - Sorry matey, I seriously doubt so and I thou shall not give a damn.