So thats were you guys are coming up with these times. I think it is a very inconsistant list - you have way too many variables, the biggest one being the drivers, to compare. How do I know the guy Sport Auto used to drive that day was an experienced level driver or a first year journalist? How many laps did he have on the ring compared to the guy from Top Gear?

Its harder to argue this point when you look at the lap times in R&T's recent test of the GTR, Z06, and GT3 - as they used the same pro level driver for all three cars on the same track on the same day. If they had used 2 more drivers in addtion to Millen for all cars tested, it would have really narrowed things down to be sure. It would be possible then to start talking about things like what tires each car used.

 

[QUOTE]7:56.73* 155.57 km/h Honda NSX-R (*Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion", lap not complete)
8:03.86 153.52 km/h -- Honda NSX http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ua_wcOnPkxk
8:09 --- 151.66 km/h -- Honda NSX-R, 320 PS/1467 kg (sport auto 08/02)
8:16.15 149.48 km/h -- Honda NSX (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion") http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ua_wcOnPkxk
...
8:32 --- 144.84 km/h -- BMW Z4 3.0 SMG (sport auto 04/03)
8:32 --- 144.84 km/h -- BMW Z4 3.0si coupe, 265 PS/1408 kg (sport auto 08/06)
8:32 --- 144.84 km/h -- Lotus Exige, 192hp (sport auto 08/04)
8:33.80 144.34 km/h -- Honda NSX (6-speed) Coupe, 276 PS (Top Gear magazine)
8:34 --- 144.28 km/h -- Acura NSX, 276 PS
8:36 --- 143.59 km/h -- Porsche Boxster

 

removed link to other thread; the two were combined

 

I'm guessing Honda didn't test the CR in Nurburgring?

 

I'm still astonished by the 7:20 GTR time..... I read/heard somewhere that the next NSX will beat it by 8sec.

 

Where'd you see that?

 

i dont think there was ever a 7:20 time ... from what ive read online .. ie. autoblog .. the new R35 V-spec will do it in 7:25.

 

Sorry for bringing a old thread up but to be clear is the 8:39 time the best a stock S2000 has done the ring time wise? It just seems so slow for a car that should perform better than that .

 

I am not sure why, look at the track, speed and acceleration are everything. Trying to compare it to cars with far better acceleration and better high speed braking is just pointless.

 

I really wouldn't consider the S2k a better handling car than most of the platforms you are comparing to either, certainly not in stock form and certainly not at real high speed corners.

The S2000 is not some magical sports car, spend 2 or 3 times more $ and you will get a faster car. To me what makes the s2000 special is the overall experience of owning/driving one, all at an incredible value. The engineering is so purposeful and reliable it is amazing that the car retailed for just over $30k, for $10k you can get a used high mile one and track the hell out of it for years to come. On top of all of this the owners are an awesome group to be involved with. So I am not surprised at all by the 8:39, I mean it likely was done "top down"