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Old 12-16-2004 | 12:06 PM
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If HIDs pose a danger to people working cars that are not used to them, imagine what a hybrid can do. I've heard there are special warnings and training classes for emergency workers in case they encounter a hybrid crash. Imagine an EMT coming to the scene of a hybrid accident, not knowing there's a trunk full of shorted batteries.
Old 12-16-2004 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by steven975,Dec 16 2004, 02:40 PM
actually, volts is a measure of the amount of power each electron is carrying.
Hmm. When you say "power", I do not think you mean what you say. Power is work per time. Voltage, as you say, is work per charge.

Volts multiplied by amps, in fact, is the measure of power.
Old 12-16-2004 | 07:14 PM
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something called a "ballast" does it instead - from what I can tell, it's basically a big capacitor that can deliver a lot of electricity over a short period of time
A ballast is a transformer, which is a device that changes the voltage of an alternating current. A capacitor wouldn't work for this purpose because (a) it doesn't itself change voltages, and (b) after it empties, it has to refill before it can output again.

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Old 12-16-2004 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Elistan,Dec 15 2004, 11:24 AM
Yep, that's why you should always have the dealer do HID work.

(I'm amused that you found that amusing, though. It's the same concept as any other high-voltage transformer saying "DANGER"...)
I would expect the label to say something like, "Please service from your authorized Honda dealer, may cause serious injury or death."

I've never seen a label so bluntly stated on a vehicle.

This thread is very educating. Thanks for the replies.
Old 12-16-2004 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by UT-RTFM,Dec 16 2004, 10:14 PM
A ballast is a transformer, which is a device that changes the voltage of an alternating current. A capacitor wouldn't work for this purpose because (a) it doesn't itself change voltages, and (b) after it empties, it has to refill before it can output again.

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Cool, didn't know that. Where does it get the AC? Is there an inverter hooked up to the battery somewhere in our cars?
Old 12-17-2004 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Elistan,Dec 16 2004, 01:14 PM
Hmm. When you say "power", I do not think you mean what you say. Power is work per time. Voltage, as you say, is work per charge.

Volts multiplied by amps, in fact, is the measure of power.
well, volts is joules per coulomb, or the amount of work one coulomb of electrons could do.

that is another way of saying work (or power) per electron. A 1V coulomb has exactly 1 joule of energy. Thus, you could say that each electron has 1/6.022*10^23 joules.
Old 12-17-2004 | 07:55 AM
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that is another way of saying work (or power) per electron.
Err... Power = work/time. Power != work.

For example, I can do the work of carrying a 50lb bag of sand up three flights of stairs. It'd just take me a really long time to do it. But a horse could do it a lot faster, and a 50hp winch could do it quite quickly indeed.

Not a big deal, just a nitpick in terminology.
Old 12-17-2004 | 07:06 PM
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I've just translated the Japanese text and it reads;

" WARNING : If you are Japanese and read English, kindly ignore the above. That is written for the Americans who will bankrupt us with law suits bigger than J Lo's ass should one of them get a shock from opening this cover. Ah so."
Old 12-18-2004 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Elistan,Dec 15 2004, 10:48 AM
There are plenty other ways to kill yourself with a car that don't have such warning lables, but I'd guess that people used to swapping out halogen bulbs might not realize the danger of working around HID ballasts, so the warning seems reasonable to me.


HID's are still relatively new, and I doubt your "average joe" knows the details of how they work. I certainly didn't. So, I think it is sensible to give a "heads up" that the normally simple act of changing a light bulb might be a little more dangerous than you are expecting.
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