is the S the only car to ONLY come in manual?
07-22-2010, 07:50 PM
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07-22-2010, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by gCHOW,Jul 22 2010, 05:52 PM
the S2000 retail price has never been under $30k and thats a whole different question.
07-22-2010, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Benethen,Jul 22 2010, 10:26 PM
wow really? what did these cars retail for brand new?
again, thats MSRP and what one paid for it may have been closer to $30k maybe?
07-23-2010, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ralper,Jul 22 2010, 04:33 PM
Actually I recently read that cars with real manual transmissions represent only about 9% of all of the cars being produced. And that number is expected to fall over the next few years.
All three of our vehicles are manual. I've been looking to replace our oldest Civic.
We'd want a sedan (preferably something other than FWD), and it MUST be MT.
The trouble is, of the few manuals available, they tend to fall into two categories:
1) Economical (low optioned cars - Even if I were to settle for another Civic, you can't option the EX with a MT and leather.)
2) Sport-oriented (Audis, BMWs, etc., that put you into the $40k+ range.)
There's little in between, and then they are almost ALWAYS FWD.
Based on specs alone, the Subaru Legacy was on the top of my list... until I drove one. And even then, you can only get the 6-speed in the base model with hardly any options, or the top model GT with the turbo and every option Subaru has to offer. But on paper the LGT is very nicely optioned for ~$30k.
I get it, technology has improved such that automatics are now at least as fuel efficient as MTs, and on high-end sports cars they can shift as fast or faster than a human with a MT. However, I'm not racing my car and I'd gladly sacrifice the 1-2 mpg benefit of an automatic for the enjoyment and control that a MT offers.
07-23-2010, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 00CivicSi,Jul 23 2010, 08:56 AM
All three of our vehicles are manual. , I'm not racing my car and I'd gladly sacrifice the 1-2 mpg benefit of an automatic for the enjoyment and control that a MT offers.
07-23-2010, 05:31 AM
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I am soon going to be facing the same problem. I'm going to give my 06 Si to my son next June when he gets his license and I'm going to have to replace it as its my daily driver. I'm probably going to buy a 4 door Si, and that's not at all a bad choice, but I wish there were more manual transmission cars to choose from.
Like has been said, I don't want to buy an Audi/BMW or anything in the $40,000 range for a daily driver, and I don't want to buy an econony car as I want a little more.
At the time that I bought my 06 Si I had originally tried to get a 4 door Civic EX with a Navi and a manual transmission (this was before the Si was available). It was virtually impossible to get a Civic built that way, and luckily the Si was introduced before I settled for anything else.
My experience has been that even when the manufacturer says the model (except for economy models) are available with manual transmissions, they are very often hard to find because so few are being produced.
Like has been said, I don't want to buy an Audi/BMW or anything in the $40,000 range for a daily driver, and I don't want to buy an econony car as I want a little more.
At the time that I bought my 06 Si I had originally tried to get a 4 door Civic EX with a Navi and a manual transmission (this was before the Si was available). It was virtually impossible to get a Civic built that way, and luckily the Si was introduced before I settled for anything else.
My experience has been that even when the manufacturer says the model (except for economy models) are available with manual transmissions, they are very often hard to find because so few are being produced.