is the S the only car to ONLY come in manual?
.... SMG isn't manual
07-19-2010, 09:04 PM
#22
Originally Posted by ralper,Jul 19 2010, 07:31 PM
I respectfully disagree. Once you introduce a lot of options and make the car an "everyman's" type car, it begins to lose some of it's identity and becomes less special.
I hate to sound elitist, but a car like the S2000 isn't and shouldn't be meant for everyone. That's part of what makes it so very special.
By the way, all of the great English sportscars of the 40s, 50s and 60s were also very limited in options. You bought them the way they came, or you didn't buy them. It wasn't until the 70s, when they were desperate for market share, that they started to introduce options and automatic transmissions. Had they focused on updating the cars and quality control, they probably wouldn't have found themselves in that situation. The S2000 is what the MGB should have become.
I hate to sound elitist, but a car like the S2000 isn't and shouldn't be meant for everyone. That's part of what makes it so very special.
By the way, all of the great English sportscars of the 40s, 50s and 60s were also very limited in options. You bought them the way they came, or you didn't buy them. It wasn't until the 70s, when they were desperate for market share, that they started to introduce options and automatic transmissions. Had they focused on updating the cars and quality control, they probably wouldn't have found themselves in that situation. The S2000 is what the MGB should have become.
With that being said the S2000 was based off the S500, S600, and S800. Then why not give us a coupe version just like the S600 and S800's had?
07-20-2010, 02:57 AM
#24
Originally Posted by JDM_JOE,Jul 20 2010, 12:04 AM
I understand exactly what you mean. But I guess I was thinking more along the lines of a coupe version as I would not really care about different trim level interior wise.
With that being said the S2000 was based off the S500, S600, and S800. Then why not give us a coupe version just like the S600 and S800's had?
With that being said the S2000 was based off the S500, S600, and S800. Then why not give us a coupe version just like the S600 and S800's had?
I think the design and engineering of this car was very focused, and the engineers at Honda produced exactly the car they wanted to produce.
07-20-2010, 05:18 AM
#26
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I look at Mazda and the MX-5 and wonder what could have been with Honda. The S2000 filled a void in the car market that is now empty - there is nothing between an MX-5 and a Boxster/Z4 on the market (the 370Z doesn't count) - Honda really had the market all to itself for a light sportscar that could slot between these two icons, and Honda abandoned it.
The reason there were no variants of the S2000 is because the S2000 was never destined to be a regular Honda. It was originally introduced as a one-off oddity and it hung around for a bit (10 years vs the 1 it was originally to be made for). If Honda had backed it we could have seen a coupe, HT convertible, etc. The S2000 was never built with that in mind however - the reason it didn't have an auto is Honda didn't want to put the R&D into such a limited production car imo, and that's fine by me.
The reason there were no variants of the S2000 is because the S2000 was never destined to be a regular Honda. It was originally introduced as a one-off oddity and it hung around for a bit (10 years vs the 1 it was originally to be made for). If Honda had backed it we could have seen a coupe, HT convertible, etc. The S2000 was never built with that in mind however - the reason it didn't have an auto is Honda didn't want to put the R&D into such a limited production car imo, and that's fine by me.
07-20-2010, 06:17 AM
#28
Registered User
If we're going to include trim levels like ITR, Civic Si, Z06, etc., we might as well say things like "The Mazda RX-8 R3 is available in manual only" and "The Infinity G37 Coupe Sport MT is available in manual only." Which is a pretty meaningless answer IMO. Might as well say that every car with a manual option is only available with a manual if you choose that option - in other words, saying that you can't have two different transmissions, a stick-shift manual and a slushbox, in the same car.
Elise/Exige, Viper, Ford GT, Carrera GT... Probably plenty of others I just can't think of.
Elise/Exige, Viper, Ford GT, Carrera GT... Probably plenty of others I just can't think of.
