Rx-7 Vs. S2000
#41
I too own the 3rd generation RX7 as many T.I.T.S. members know. It is now sold to a marine living in Palm Desert. My main gripe about that car is the fact that the heat generated by this car due to the twin turbos and rotary engine packed so tightly into this car can do havoc with the rubber vacuum, water hoses in the engine bay.
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I was just getting a bit sentimental about my 3 wks ago departed 3rd gen RX-7. Thanks for reminding me that there were a couple of annoying recall campaigns to replace some heat vulnerable brake hoses, water pump, etal. It was a great car, and I still claim some sort of record for going 121,000 miles on original engine, transmission and clutch. It remained exceedingly difficult to drive gently, in the everyday creep and crawl we so often must encounter. I needed the S2000 to reassure me that, even at my advanced age, I can still shift gears smoothly.
In any comparison of relative ease of maintenance, the S2000 seems to win by a very wide margin. The VTEC engine may be very high tech, but its high rpm/low rpm split personality is controlled by what I believe to be fairly straightforward [and, please God, very, very reliable] electronic switching. You would never want to compare this with the elaborate plumbing and switches needed to get the progressive turbos to do their thing. The S2000 also has nothing to compare to the infamous '3000 rpm hesitation' experienced by all 3rd gen owners. There is a secondary set of fuel injectors which cut in also at higher rpm, and just the right combination of modest throttle and not quite fully warmed up engine at 3000 rpm generates a switchover/thump which can practically put driver and passenger through the windshield. No fix for that - it's just part of the RX-7 personality.
I am wiping away my sentimental tears, and being very thankful for the plain vanilla traits of the S2000 in humdrum traffic conditions.
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I was just getting a bit sentimental about my 3 wks ago departed 3rd gen RX-7. Thanks for reminding me that there were a couple of annoying recall campaigns to replace some heat vulnerable brake hoses, water pump, etal. It was a great car, and I still claim some sort of record for going 121,000 miles on original engine, transmission and clutch. It remained exceedingly difficult to drive gently, in the everyday creep and crawl we so often must encounter. I needed the S2000 to reassure me that, even at my advanced age, I can still shift gears smoothly.
In any comparison of relative ease of maintenance, the S2000 seems to win by a very wide margin. The VTEC engine may be very high tech, but its high rpm/low rpm split personality is controlled by what I believe to be fairly straightforward [and, please God, very, very reliable] electronic switching. You would never want to compare this with the elaborate plumbing and switches needed to get the progressive turbos to do their thing. The S2000 also has nothing to compare to the infamous '3000 rpm hesitation' experienced by all 3rd gen owners. There is a secondary set of fuel injectors which cut in also at higher rpm, and just the right combination of modest throttle and not quite fully warmed up engine at 3000 rpm generates a switchover/thump which can practically put driver and passenger through the windshield. No fix for that - it's just part of the RX-7 personality.
I am wiping away my sentimental tears, and being very thankful for the plain vanilla traits of the S2000 in humdrum traffic conditions.
#43
I love Japanese sports cars. I am very impressed and happy that honda grew up and realized that the FWD econobox rice rockets were well...Just that. The RWD S2K is a great looking car. I have to say that it does not compare to an RX7. I think comparing a Miata to S2k is the same as comparing a S2k to a RX7. My unmodified 94 has 0-60 4.9 seconds top speed 158. I smoke every car I have come across so far. The 255 HP compared to 240 HP, (I think the 2800 lb RX is lighter than s2k) But the key is the 217 LBS of torque. I hit my Max HP at 6500 RPM, torque at 4600 or so. The twin Turbo's are vicious. AS far as being undependable, I have 138K original miles. The best part about the rotary engine is that the engine does not lose power over time. When your S2k hits 138K (and its a honda, so it will) It will not feel like it did when it was new. A rotary engine is an enineering masterpiece. Enjoy your S2k as I enjoy my other car (the miata) but dont try to compare the two, its just fantasy.
#44
I totally agree about the rotary. Proper care will yield great benefits out of it. The good part is that all the reliability modifications will drastically improve horsepower all throughout the powerband.
#47
[QUOTE]Originally posted by p996tt2k
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I have to disagree with the general statement that the S2000 cannot be compared to the S2000. Straight-line performance - pound-for-pound - NO. However, every other parameter you would like to compare is very compareable. The S2000 posted the fastest time and BESTED all the other cars out on the autocross this weekend. The driver was even running with a passenger. The car did not have a SC or drastic mod either. Therefore, handling in the hands of a great driver, the S2000 can best some of the fastest cars out there. BTW, the S2000 bested my time around a fairly tight 1.0 mile autocross track by 3 seconds. The times were 75.?? for the S2000 and 78.61 for me. I was in a 2001 911 Turbo and not a shabby driver either.
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I have to disagree with the general statement that the S2000 cannot be compared to the S2000. Straight-line performance - pound-for-pound - NO. However, every other parameter you would like to compare is very compareable. The S2000 posted the fastest time and BESTED all the other cars out on the autocross this weekend. The driver was even running with a passenger. The car did not have a SC or drastic mod either. Therefore, handling in the hands of a great driver, the S2000 can best some of the fastest cars out there. BTW, the S2000 bested my time around a fairly tight 1.0 mile autocross track by 3 seconds. The times were 75.?? for the S2000 and 78.61 for me. I was in a 2001 911 Turbo and not a shabby driver either.
#48
94 RX-7 sold S2000 on way I loved my RX-7 but she broke my heart after 2 motors at 5k each. I miss the RX-7 as a car but I was spending more time at the shop than at home or hell anywhere. So I seen a S2000 and went and drove one and in the test drive I was like when is the next one due. I have my Yellow & Black 2002 sometime in the next 2 weeks.
#49
"The RX-7 board has LOTS of kids - sad. This runs the board down a little - not that I am against that crowd, it just gets tiring after a while - if you know what I mean. Here is the crowd I hang with vs each car:
RX-7 - 16-30 yrs old typically "
Hey, we don't need any kid haters lol.... it's about the car, and ALL owners and enthusiast
RX-7 - 16-30 yrs old typically "
Hey, we don't need any kid haters lol.... it's about the car, and ALL owners and enthusiast
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