Rear tires are wider the the front tires, Is there any funtional reason behind or...
#1
Rear tires are wider the the front tires, Is there any funtional reason behind or...
is just bling bling
My situation: I am SCed with 310 whp and looking for more grip on street tires
I will like to run the SSR Comp (17x8 +48 and 17x9 +55 are the fitment)
which tire size is best, should I go 225&245 or try to get a 245 all around??
Thx
My situation: I am SCed with 310 whp and looking for more grip on street tires
I will like to run the SSR Comp (17x8 +48 and 17x9 +55 are the fitment)
which tire size is best, should I go 225&245 or try to get a 245 all around??
Thx
#3
Originally posted by SpeedxRacer
Reason being is becasue our car is RWD. The wider tires in the back help with traction etc.
Reason being is becasue our car is RWD. The wider tires in the back help with traction etc.
I thought that then I ask why FWD does not have wider front tires??
On a straight line I understand that rear should be wider but on the curves makes sense?
#4
Someone will be able to explain it better, but my understanding is that narrower tires in front are for handeling.
If you had the same size front and rear on this car it would be even more prone to snap the rear end loose. Something about the narrower front allows it to begin to loose traction in a curv before the rear.
The stagger is something I know ya don't want to mess with on this car if youy expect otpimal handeling.
If you had the same size front and rear on this car it would be even more prone to snap the rear end loose. Something about the narrower front allows it to begin to loose traction in a curv before the rear.
The stagger is something I know ya don't want to mess with on this car if youy expect otpimal handeling.
#5
On super fantastic JDM front wheel drive cars(ff) like the top feul civic ek9, They do have wider front tires. This also aids in traction and reduces the understeer so common in front wheel drive cars.
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#6
Originally posted by S2000_Europe
is just bling bling
is just bling bling
It's just bling bling. Formula One drivers do it so that it will distract their competitors, put fear in their hearts, and make the opponents think they're addicted to bling bling.
No functional reason at all in Formula One. Just bling bling.
Dragsters, too, do it for just bling bling.
#7
Barry, at least help the guy out when you're done being sarcastic!
It is NOT just bling. It's because the s2k has a tendency toward oversteer. Think about it this way:
Tires = traction. Because our BACK end has a tendency to step out, they put more tire in the back to offer more traction in the back. To counter oversteer.
If you were to put same size tires F/R, you'd essentially be anchoring the front end more which in turn would make the rear end step out more easily. Kinda like adding more to a pivot point in the front.
It is NOT just bling. It's because the s2k has a tendency toward oversteer. Think about it this way:
Tires = traction. Because our BACK end has a tendency to step out, they put more tire in the back to offer more traction in the back. To counter oversteer.
If you were to put same size tires F/R, you'd essentially be anchoring the front end more which in turn would make the rear end step out more easily. Kinda like adding more to a pivot point in the front.
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#8
It is my understanding the the S car was engineered that way for cornering and handling purposes. If you increase tire width, it takes away from horsepower. If you enlarge the wheel, then your turning radius will be effected. The combination may look better, but isn't as functional as the orignial OEM.
#9
Simply because the car is RWD is not the proper explaination. One of many examples, the RX8, is
RWD and has equal sized tires fore and aft. An automobile's specific handling traits
will dictate the manufacturer's recommended set-up. Bear in mind few cars are
set-up "race ready" off the showroom floor, rather they are designed for the average (or atypical) automobile
owner, which explains why Honda went even further with the stagger on the
'04's. Now, if you add stiffer sway bar in front, aggressive alignments and experiment
with tire pressures (IOW, stuff Honda assumes most owners of this car will NOT do),
you can run with equal sized tires on all four corners (proper offsets, tire widths
of course) and still have yourself quite a handler, not necessarilly a handful as many
falsely assume. It comes down to the driver's style, experience and attention to detail when it comes
to modifications. A closer inspection at some of the Japanese racing S2000 tire/wheel
set-ups would surprise people.
Bottom line, unless you have a LOT of rear wheel drive experience, enjoy oversteer (even
welcome it) and know what you're doing underneath the car, it's best to try and
keep the stagger as close to stock as possible but then again, a 1.6-inch stagger on
a set of Pep Boy specials will NOT make your S2000 suitable for canyon carving nor would that same 1.6-inch stagger on a set of horribly worn SO-2's be suitable for the task either. Too many owners in here lean on the stagger as the be-all, end-all to what makes the S2000 such a great handling automobile but no accident that I've seen posted in here would have been prevented if someone running 1.3 inches of stagger had that additional .3 inches. Nine times out of 10
it was caused by either inclement weather (rain), too much aggressiveness in said
weather, poor driving habits (braking in the middle of the turn), worn tires or worse...a combination of all.
Simply saying, "because it's RWD" is not the correct answer here.
RWD and has equal sized tires fore and aft. An automobile's specific handling traits
will dictate the manufacturer's recommended set-up. Bear in mind few cars are
set-up "race ready" off the showroom floor, rather they are designed for the average (or atypical) automobile
owner, which explains why Honda went even further with the stagger on the
'04's. Now, if you add stiffer sway bar in front, aggressive alignments and experiment
with tire pressures (IOW, stuff Honda assumes most owners of this car will NOT do),
you can run with equal sized tires on all four corners (proper offsets, tire widths
of course) and still have yourself quite a handler, not necessarilly a handful as many
falsely assume. It comes down to the driver's style, experience and attention to detail when it comes
to modifications. A closer inspection at some of the Japanese racing S2000 tire/wheel
set-ups would surprise people.
Bottom line, unless you have a LOT of rear wheel drive experience, enjoy oversteer (even
welcome it) and know what you're doing underneath the car, it's best to try and
keep the stagger as close to stock as possible but then again, a 1.6-inch stagger on
a set of Pep Boy specials will NOT make your S2000 suitable for canyon carving nor would that same 1.6-inch stagger on a set of horribly worn SO-2's be suitable for the task either. Too many owners in here lean on the stagger as the be-all, end-all to what makes the S2000 such a great handling automobile but no accident that I've seen posted in here would have been prevented if someone running 1.3 inches of stagger had that additional .3 inches. Nine times out of 10
it was caused by either inclement weather (rain), too much aggressiveness in said
weather, poor driving habits (braking in the middle of the turn), worn tires or worse...a combination of all.
Simply saying, "because it's RWD" is not the correct answer here.