TRDLiquidSilver

[QUOTE=plokivos,Mar 31 2008, 12:14 PM]oversteer is something that RWD does naturally. It's a common sense that if you have rwd and if you load power on to it, it'll go crazy.

have you seen babies fall?

Blacknot

Autocrossing has helped me out alot. I always thought i was a great driver but you cant practice that kind of driving legally on the street. A group of 20 S2ki members went to a go cart track with really fast carts. The kind that you have to slow down for in corners. I ran 2nd fastest that day and it's from what i have learned autocrossing.

RED MX5

Are you talkikng about *street driving*??!!! It seems to me that if you experience "accidental and not induced oversteer" often enough to get comfortable with it, on the street, then you're driving like an asshat and asking for trouble.

I've been driving an S2000 for four years now. It has stepped out ONCE, without me inducing it, and I'm including all street driving, autocrosses, and track time. When the back end steps out accidentally, unexpectedly, the outcome is unpredictable and if it's happening on the street, it's hazardous.

Instead of having momentary losses of control so often that you get use to it, I think it makes more sense to learn to keep the car under control. Am I missing something?


EDIT:Induced oversteer is another matter, at least if you do it in a safe place. I'm use to it enough to do stuff like this when I get a wild hair.

boyguan

mainly in the rain is where it steps out. And when it did a long time ago, man it got my heart beating.

babowc

1 rainy night when i first purchased the car.

You should be able to tell the limits of your car's traction just by feeling how and what the car wants to do.

If not.. go to a track and practice, it shouldn't take too much time getting used to.

RED MX5

In general, that's true, but I think Boyguan is asking about those (hopefully rare) times when something unexpected happens, like a slick spot that you don't see causing an unexpected slide. Besides, I think it was King Richard that said, "If you never spin out, you're not driving fast enough."

If your S2000 has never startled you with a sudden tail slide, either you drive more conservatively or carefully than most, or you've been lucky.

RED MX5

Hahaha. I avoid scaring myself in the rain by slowing down.

babowc

Or you're driving well

either way.. you need to get used to it to counter the spin in a bad situation.
Just go practice.

mikegarrison

If you wear a belt, or even pants that fit properly, this doesn't happen so often.

RED MX5

Everybody makes mistakes.

Even those who drive conservatively can benefit from learning how to deal with the situation when the car starts to "slip away." And since the only way to learn a car's limits is to exceed its limits, it's important that any "practicing" be done in a safe place.

LOL, why counter the spin; It's more fun to complete it and keep on going.