Rays Lug Nuts question?
02-23-2005, 06:20 AM
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(not your money) + stock lugs are turd , you dont buy 2,200 dollars bronze volks and put stock chrome lugs 
I really dont think theres anything bad about alum. lugs..... people may tend to think they are weaker because alum. is a soft metal....alhtough I am sure RAYS hardened these... i think they know what they are doing!
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02-23-2005, 08:59 AM
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ok, for people who want to know why aluminum lugs are bad....
When you put them on, and wait about 5000 miles till you need to take em off for some reason, the Tq youll apply will bend them....you might not be able to see it, but they bend. Thus, they dont go on 100%, which can result in it coming off when you are going a decent speed. if you are going to waste your money, get titanium at least.
When you put them on, and wait about 5000 miles till you need to take em off for some reason, the Tq youll apply will bend them....you might not be able to see it, but they bend. Thus, they dont go on 100%, which can result in it coming off when you are going a decent speed. if you are going to waste your money, get titanium at least.
02-23-2005, 01:23 PM
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do not use your stock lugs on the volks.
the seat of the stock lugs is spherical while the hole that your lugs fit into in your new volks are cylindrical.
as for the aluminum debate, whatever.. as long as theyre cylindrical and offer some sort of security, i wouldnt fret.
dont spend $100+ on volks, you can get cheaper elsewhere.. you'll hear over and over again that kyokugen lugs are crap, but i've had em for quite some time now and since i've kept them torqued at 80ft/lbs, havent had any problems at all.
oh, and another thing about the volks, theyre pretty fat, fat as in theyre too large to fit in any wheels that have narrow lug openings.
the seat of the stock lugs is spherical while the hole that your lugs fit into in your new volks are cylindrical.
as for the aluminum debate, whatever.. as long as theyre cylindrical and offer some sort of security, i wouldnt fret.
dont spend $100+ on volks, you can get cheaper elsewhere.. you'll hear over and over again that kyokugen lugs are crap, but i've had em for quite some time now and since i've kept them torqued at 80ft/lbs, havent had any problems at all.
oh, and another thing about the volks, theyre pretty fat, fat as in theyre too large to fit in any wheels that have narrow lug openings.
02-23-2005, 06:50 PM
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Stock lugs don't fit many replacement wheels. Your comment was rude and uncalled for.
People around here love their cars and want to do something fun to dress them up; take a chill pill and let it be.
Stock lugs don't fit many replacement wheels. Your comment was rude and uncalled for.
People around here love their cars and want to do something fun to dress them up; take a chill pill and let it be.
02-23-2005, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mav,Feb 23 2005, 06:53 AM
^ Thanks for the concern, but its not your money I'm wasting.
Now back on topic, why are aluminum lugnuts bad?
Now back on topic, why are aluminum lugnuts bad?
1) Dissimilar metal problem: aluminum and steel are usually incompatible alloys that are susceptible to galvanic corrosion
2) They'll heat up and cool down at different rates than the studs will, potentially causing loosening and make no mistake, the hub/stud area gets quite hot during spirited driving due to heat conducted from the brakes.
3) It's more likely that you'll damage upon removal or cross-thread on installation an aluminum lugnut due to the softer nature of the metal
Your mileage may vary.
02-24-2005, 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC,Feb 23 2005, 09:50 AM
They are f*cking lugnuts. The sh!t people on this forum spend their money on is unbelievable. Take the stock lugnuts, and paint them spoon blue or whatever...dont waste your money.
02-24-2005, 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Ludedude,Feb 24 2005, 03:17 AM
[ ... ] 1) Dissimilar metal problem: aluminum and steel are usually incompatible alloys that are susceptible to galvanic corrosion [ ... ]
Does anti-seize compound help avoid galvanic corrosion? Any opinions on using anti-seize on your lugs?
I'm active in this discussion, by the way, because I'm considering Ray's Al lugs also...