Ouch! That sucks your car is looking like that. I'm just glad your made it out alive. I wish you a speedy recovery!

Red, any link or anything linking to the RLTC system? I don't mean to highjack this thread but... I thought certain drivers can be faster then the traction control used in formula 1....

 

[QUOTE=RED MX5,Nov 25 2007, 04:25 PM] I'm not exactly sure what the sequence of events was here, but as I read the opening post, it seems that this was the result of a combination of hydroplaning, possibly complicated by lifting off the throttle, with that followed by an over correction.

 

The only thing that would have prevented this would have been a good set of tires that were wet weather oriented, and or lower speed.

 

I can relate to that.

 

I disagree.

The overcorrection and regaining traction was what ultimately led to the accident.

In a 50:50 balanced car driving in a straight line. A hydroplane should not rotate you very much... UNLESS you're touching the throttle (or heaven-forbid, the cruise control).

If you took the same situation and drove through the puddle / standing water in a straight line in NEUTRAL, both the initial rotation and the correction would have been improved.

That's what the traction control does (and more). It keeps all wheels spinning at the same rate.

If you hit the puddle first and the fronts slow down, the TC will start slowing the rear wheels before you drive over the puddle with the rear wheels. It won't let the rear "over run" the front. I think the system works well in a car like the S2000 that can modulate speed so well with engine braking. I think the power of the engine braking is also what gets people into trouble when trying to correct a skid.

This essentially selectively slows the rears at the same time as the front is dragging through water in order to keep them all spinning at the same rate. Much less rotation if the back can't come around.

 

sorry if i'm hijacking this thread,

i have an 07(meaning i have VSA). how does this react compared to TC like RACELOGIC that you are talking about.?

i tried to mess with my car with the VSA on, just to see how it would react during drifts... i tried it on corners(of course making sure no one is around) and in one instance. made a U turn and powerslide the car. it seems like it cuts of the trottle entirely instead of gradually, then gives me back the power the moment i regain traction(i guess when the rear starts to spin in the same rate as the front).

red or ckit(or anyone), please explain so we can fully utilize the eloctro-gizmos of our cars, to help us avoid accidents. i just wanna know when it will and will not help me...

and for the OP, the important thing is you're in one piece, and can fully recover to drive another day,

 

Check out the discussion and videos I posted on the Racelogic thread:
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showt...&#entry11932075

The Honda VSA is superior for safety. But it is intrusive.

The Racelogic is Traction Control only and will not brake individual wheels. It is a performance geared system that has the added benefit of more forgiveness in a slippery situation. It also has nice adjustable features like "wet" vs "dry" settings, minimum rpm threshold (so you can have it automatically disabled under whatever rpm setting you choose) and different cut limits.

 

sorry to hear that man, hope the healing process goes well. could have been a lot worse.

btw, i wish i can be "invisible" sometimes, so i can feel invincible.

sorry... i had to.

 

Having inadaquate tires, and or too high of a speed is what ultimately started the entire chain of events

Sure, the driver was unable to re-gain control of the car, but again, with the proper tires/lower speed, there would have been no need to make any corrections at all.



[QUOTE=CKit,Nov 25 2007, 07:54 PM]In a 50:50 balanced car driving in a straight line.

 

I'm really sorry to hear about this incident. I suppose when you get a community of thousands of owners together, we're bound to always have a couple stories like this on the go.

I'm glad you bad it out relatively okay, and that you're already on the hunt for a new S. Glad to still have you with us!