Push Button Start
#2
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1912 called. Wants to take credit for it's technology
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#4
The first car I ever owned was a 1966 Citroen DS21. The key turned on the ignition, and there was a button that activated the starter. Funny thing was that the starter button was always hot. You could engage the starter w/o the key, or (gasp) while the engine was running.
#5
Originally Posted by solitarycheese
Check out this '47 Triumph 1800 - it too has the silly key and start button combo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1ZD...utu.be&t=2m55s
I really dislike the modern interpretation of push button start. The same motion used to perform two opposite functions, one of which might be needed in a panic situation? Who thought that was a good idea? The change in state the button will perform is simply the opposite of the current state, but in that panic situation that might not be so easy to determine.
Imagine you (or someone less mechanically and driver competent as you) are in an unintended acceleration scenario. You need to turn the car off NOW. You are frantically trying to shut the car off. You might end up turning it back on. Or the opposite. Car stalls. Power steering, power brakes lost. Need to turn it back on NOW. Are you starting, or did it start and now you are turning it back off again. Horrible design. I HATE designs that use the same motion to do opposing functions. Our subconscious is great at learning, if this happens, do that. It isn't so great at if this happens, in this state, then do that. Otherwise do something else.
Plus, I dont get how modern push to start is at all convenient. I gotta take key out to unlock car. But then I can just put it my pocket again. No need to insert it or turn it. Great. Except when I get out, I gotta take key out again to lock car. I find it much easier to remove key from old school ignition, so its already in my hand, so I can lock car, then put key in pocket. Much more cumbersome to fish for key in pocket, just to put it back again.
Dont get me started on if you dont put key in pocket, and lose it inside car while driving.
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#6
Plus, I dont get how modern push to start is at all convenient. I gotta take key out to unlock car. But then I can just put it my pocket again. No need to insert it or turn it. Great. Except when I get out, I gotta take key out again to lock car. I find it much easier to remove key from old school ignition, so its already in my hand, so I can lock car, then put key in pocket. Much more cumbersome to fish for key in pocket, just to put it back again.
#7
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Originally Posted by Car Analogy' timestamp='1466437890' post='23997587
Plus, I dont get how modern push to start is at all convenient. I gotta take key out to unlock car. But then I can just put it my pocket again. No need to insert it or turn it. Great. Except when I get out, I gotta take key out again to lock car. I find it much easier to remove key from old school ignition, so its already in my hand, so I can lock car, then put key in pocket. Much more cumbersome to fish for key in pocket, just to put it back again.
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#9
I never had a keyless system that requires taking the transponder out of my pocket. As soon as you grab your door handle, the door unlocks. Touch the door handle and it locks. Key stays in pocket (or cup holder) at all times, even if I'm starting the engine. It can't get any simpler than that (on my Lexus).
#10
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That said, the logic behind the button and the fact that is is on the outside of the car has to do with performance, not just looks or as a mindless feature. In the event of a stall, you can get the car into first with one hand while restarting the engine with the other.