Prolene

Johev, have you ever had the transmission oil and differential lubes changed? If not, less frction with newer lubricants may allow for cooler gear case temps and thus reduction or cessation of the grind and other noises.

johev

good point!

I probably should have that done! I have been really reluctant to take the car in because of all the problems people have been having

elanderholm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by johev
[B]good point!

I probably should have that done!

BigWave10

Sorry to hear about your troubles. Do not get discouraged this is a great car. You may however in this case want to consider checking into your state's "Lemon Laws". You should be able to do a "arbitration" without the aid of a attorney and get the car replaced (maybe for free).

You will more than likely have to pay a "differential fee" for the difference between the value of the new vehicle and yours but you would have a brand spanking new car.

Been there (not on a Honda),

Dave

Siper2

Alright. I really DON'T want to pull the plug on this one, since there is some super advice in here from the Members, but can we stop with some of the unnecessary crap?

Please? I'll be watching this one. If anyone has any issues, please do Email me.

TomR

Hey are all these problems occuring in the 2001 models as well or should I wait for the 2002 models and see if they improve

BondS2000

Wow, what a spirited discussion! So, I'll add what little value I can.

DallasEngineer has a valid reason to be angry. As much as I like my S2K, and as much as I think Honda makes quality vehicles, I cannot see any reason he should have to put up with the issues he's having.

I totally agree that 1st-year production models have more issues than subsequent years. (My aunt tells me I should never buy an odd-numbered model year car.) But come on, guys, these are some pretty serious issues. I've read about clutchs and engines (#4 cylinder) being common problems. Again, there's no excuse for this. Poor fitting bolts, clamps too close to belts, etc. are problems I might expect. I don't know what the true ratio is of cars that have problems vs. those that do not. I think that's what the real question should be.

As far as expecting better service for the price that was paid for the car, I have to agree with that one too. Yes, a conscious decision was made to purchase a car at a set price. There is, however, an intrinsic expectation that a higher priced vehicle has a better support structure in place. Many want to believe that Honda is going to do a bit more to keep the S2000 buyer happy, rather than the Civic buyer. Right or wrong, that's just the nature of a consumer. When one buys a Lexus, he/she expects that he/she will be treated better than he/she was at the Toyota dealership.

As far as a class action, I wouldn't count on it. Follow the class action suits that have been launched, and you'll see that the consumer rarely wins. (Even when they have a successful court battle, the lawyers are really the winners.)

I believe in the Honda mantra, but I do think they may have pushed this vehicle out without the quality assurance that other Honda vehicles enjoy. The improvement in the 2001 model year vehicle bears this out.

Anyway, I hope you get your issues resolved. More selfishly, however, I hope I don't have to go through this grief in the future. It's a distraction that I can live without! (I have a 2001 model year, by the way.)

STL

[QUOTE]Originally posted by johev
[B]good point!

I probably should have that done!

STL

That's an extremely vague statement that could be interpreted in widely varying degrees. Now we know how rumors get started...
In all fairness, until we get some hard statistical data no one here (except for the AHM or HMC lurkers) really knows just how widespread the problems are (or aren't).

johev

Yeah, I checked the book and they do recommend every 30k miles, it's going to get tranny and differential fluids changed this weekend