Low revs-low power?
#11
kids kids kids.....Um yes I do have a S2000. I am just stating a basic fact. this car does not produce torque. You guys kill me. Yes those cars ( vipers ,vettes, porsches, audi's, bwm's the list goes on and on do produce lots of torque. Lets look at this one second. can you name a race car that doesnt produce amble amounts of torque.........no you cant. Why is that. Well its becasue torque wins races and horsepower sells cars. I am not talking about drag racing or NASCAR either so dont get me started. Look if we are talking about handling then the S is by far on the top of the list but lets not go by the seat of the pants here. If it werent for this cars supierior handling I would not be hanging onto it. If you want the real truth I am instucting Viper Days school this weekend. And a lot of those guys get pissed at what this little 4 banger can do on the track, but if it had torque it could do a lot better. When coming from a civic yes this car has torque. When coming from a Vw vr6 that had cams , chip intake manifold and intake...no this car has no torque! the numbers dont lie kids...........
#13
I find the S2000 to have adequate torque for being a 2 liter, 2800lb car...
However, due to the gearing of the car, it feels snappy. But that is at part throttle...
My observation is that putzing around town, the car is peppy. But if you are at 2000rpm in first gear and floor it, it feels only slightly quicker than if you at the same revs in give it like 50% power...
Of course when the VTEC kicks in, this all changes.
Zsr is right though, HP sells cars and torque wins races...
However, Zsr... you need to help me define ample...
a Champcar produces something like 900hp, but makes 390lb-ft of torque... of course its revving to 15000 rpm too...
I don't know at what RPM the torque peaks, so its hard to say how much low end there is...
I've watched the dash of a CART machine at idle, and under quick blips of the gas, the revs jump from 2000 to 7000 in about the same time as (percieved) the S2000 jumps from 2000 to 3000
all in all, the S2000 has nice torque for its displacement... I went from a C5 Corvette to the S2000 and don't really find the torque to be a big deal, but most of my driving is traffic anyways, so I'm usually in going about 40...
<sigh>
luckily I know some decent back roads to let it hang out... hehe
However, due to the gearing of the car, it feels snappy. But that is at part throttle...
My observation is that putzing around town, the car is peppy. But if you are at 2000rpm in first gear and floor it, it feels only slightly quicker than if you at the same revs in give it like 50% power...
Of course when the VTEC kicks in, this all changes.
Zsr is right though, HP sells cars and torque wins races...
However, Zsr... you need to help me define ample...
a Champcar produces something like 900hp, but makes 390lb-ft of torque... of course its revving to 15000 rpm too...
I don't know at what RPM the torque peaks, so its hard to say how much low end there is...
I've watched the dash of a CART machine at idle, and under quick blips of the gas, the revs jump from 2000 to 7000 in about the same time as (percieved) the S2000 jumps from 2000 to 3000
all in all, the S2000 has nice torque for its displacement... I went from a C5 Corvette to the S2000 and don't really find the torque to be a big deal, but most of my driving is traffic anyways, so I'm usually in going about 40...
<sigh>
luckily I know some decent back roads to let it hang out... hehe
#14
We've read these arguments about the torque (or lack thereof) a thousand times. Why not compromise and say that a stook OBVIOUSLY does not have the torque of a big displacement engine, but does have deceptively more pull than you would think from looking at the numbers?
#15
Originally posted by Zsr31
kids kids kids.....
kids kids kids.....
I also enjoy passing Cobras, NSXs and BMWs and other other cars with V8s, V6s and I6s on the track. The S2000 is very nimble and a blast to drive. But, I get my ass handed to me by an ITA CRX with a 130hp I4, so something can be said about suspension and the driver as well.
I guess we can't agree on what is enough torque. The S2000 has plenty for me, and I'm not out to win races, just have fun out there.
#16
I dont know what way you guys are taking all this but......I also enjoy this car a lot. Its an absolute thrill to drive on a track or down a back road. I just wish it had some mre freakin torque.....its jst my opionion. Now a S4 .....thats got some torque!
#17
I actually wouldn't mind more torque on the lower end also!
I just don't like taking off from dead stop at idle and almost cutting the engine. Once moving, the S2K is awesome. It's just that dead stop at idle take-offs!
I just don't like taking off from dead stop at idle and almost cutting the engine. Once moving, the S2K is awesome. It's just that dead stop at idle take-offs!
#18
The s2k is a great handling, 'peppy' car below vtec. That's all. The car can produce great clutch drop 0-60 times, but from a rolling start, 5-60 runs leave something to be desired. All because of that torque void.
Doesn't make sense to try to convince yourself otherwise.
Doesn't make sense to try to convince yourself otherwise.